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While discussing how recent natural phenomenon have ravaged his state and others, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) criticized U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) for his statements against the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
Saying that “we are a nation, not 50 individual states” and that when a disaster hits “we, as Americans, stand together,” Sanders described Paul’s assertion that government should remove itself from the disaster response business as the GOP presidential hopeful being “completely out to lunch” on the issue.
“That’s what being a nation is all about,” Sanders said.
Although Sanders’ comments to CNN (embedded below) came in the wake of Hurricane Irene slamming the nation’s east coast, Paul, a Republican with a distinct libertarian bent, has long held that FEMA and other government programs should be eliminated. His latest remark came on Fox News Sunday, when he told Chris Wallace that “FEMA has been around since 1978, it has one of the worst reputations for a bureaucracy ever.
“It’s a system of bureaucratic central economic planning, which is a policy that is deeply flawed,” said Paul.
Paul has previously argued that FEMA assistance following hurricanes in along the Gulf of Mexico created a sense of dependency that helped ruin local economies — a charge he repeated on Sunday.
“We’ve conditioned our people that FEMA will take care of us and everything will be OK, but you try to make these programs work the best you can, but you can’t just keep saying, ‘Oh, they need money,’” Paul said, adding “this country is bankrupt.”
Instead of continuing to provide assistance through FEMA, Paul suggested an immediate end to U.S. military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, earmarking half of the funds saved for deficit reduction and the other half to “tide people over until we come to our senses.”
Ron Paul is a very very very smart man. The media and this Vermont Senator should start listening and stop blowing smoke up our rear ends
Anonymous
Yep, the federal gov’mint needs to stay the hell out when states are in trouble, whether it be from a hurricane or commie invasion or whatnot. Keep yer damned gov’mint hands of our medicaid, too! Praise Jebus!
I hope you get a good kick out of the trolling you do to honest hard working Americans.
I suppose you would like me to pay for a possible abortion you might have in the future, even though I morally oppose it. Or Perhaps you would like to pick up the habit of smoking, drinking, scuba-diving, with any and all other activities which you would require me to pay for if you got injured. I suppose we should teach children that they are not responsible for the actions they choose , but instead that their friends are responsible, and everyone else should pay for my mistakes.
FYI, I’m thinking about putting all my savings into a State lottery, and I would like you to leave your number, so that I can call you for some money when I go broke.
Anonymous
Way to serve up a tasty seafood lunch….love the red herring.
((Must not have taught Civics or Debate or Critical Thinking in that middle school you dropped out of.)
Anonymous
Regular Joe should do a lil more old fashioned book readin’ before he spouts off on the interwebs. Every Regular Joe comment causes hemorraging in the brains of the collective… just sayin’. Where are the non-regular Joe’s… with brains? ..and the ones who aren’t just plain too busy dipping skoal and shooting off their pea guns at the range to actually be knowledge-able enough to add something of intelligence to a political conversation. The regular joe’s are obviously what is wrong with America and their love for a lil’ good ‘ol socialism.
Anonymous
There’s a reason Ron Paul isn’t doing better in the polls, in Iowa or nationally…..it’s asshats like thatoneguy777. Way to represent your candidate.
Anonymous
Bernie who? Since when does “stand together” mean “pour all our money into a sink hole and screw over victims of disaster”. Let people buy insurance that reflects actual risk — and allow the states to provide emergency relief. Also, Bernie, check out Ron Pau’ls new book “Liberty Defined”, there’s a chapter about people like you. It’s under “Demagogues”.
Anonymous
Yep, yet another asshat comments that Ron Paul is the be-all end-all solution to what’s wrong with Amer’ca. Ain’t no reason to band together to take care of each other, no matter what. Friggin’ socialist military and what-not be damned.
Why is this a surprise? Bernie Sanders is a self-described socialist. Both men are being true to their principles.
Anonymous
Exactly. He probably believes all that hooey about establishing justice, insuring domestic tranquility, providing for the common defence,promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. Screw him, and all them damned gov’mint do-gooders. We should be entirely self-sufficient….entirely.
Yep, resort to ad hominem when one lacks a coherent argument…such a troll!
Colonel Muthtard
Bernie is “out to lunch” with his comments. It’s okay to disagree with someone on this issue, but to use playground smears is very unprofessional and doesn’t add to the discussion. If you’re going to stand up for FEMA, you better have a good reason why.
Anonymous
How dare anyone criticize His Holiness, the Great Ron Paul! Outrageous that someone would even think to disagree with Him as He’s right on everything. Darn you to heck, Bernie!
Louis Nardozi
Ron Paul is like a dog whistle to stupid people. Everyone else hears him, Joe. Maybe you should do some reading or something.
Anonymous
Stupid people don’t hear Ron Paul? Smart people hear him, but as with dog whistles, we find him almost painfully annoying.
Anonymous
Ron Paul’s ‘solutions’ are like the modern Emperor’s new clothes. A lot of people will insist they see them, because everyone around them does, and they don’t want to look stupid or feel left out. But, as much as a crowd of idiots seem willing to defend the clothes as the most brilliant creations ever in the world, those clothes are still non-existent…and no amount of praise will make them otherwise.
http://www.facebook.com/djkapitalkev Kapital Kev
The facts are we managed to make it thru plenty of natural disasters prior to 1978. People living near the coasts had to pay high premiums on insurance because of the high risk involved in living there, they relied on national guard, groups like Red Cross, and volunteers. Now what we have is a federal government take over where individuals dont need to have insurance the government will pay for the damage, they stop outside help from coming in, and they use only certain contractors who price gauge and eat up FEMA’s money. As many people seen with Katrina what a disaster and waste FEMA is. We are a nation and as a nation we come together with National Guards, groups like Red Cross, and volunteers to help and dont need a flawed system like FEMA to get in the way.
Anonymous
You’re right….we should never have coordinated effort or shared risk and mutual aid. We should go back in time when things were so much better, what with large-scale natural disasters, epidemics, slavery, and women knew their place.
Louis Nardozi
Yes! Steak implies flame broiling, so don’t eat steak or your children will be roasted alive!
Just want you to hear how stupid you sound.
Anonymous
Steak implies flame broiling? What about chicken-fried steak? How about pan-seared steak? Anyone for steak tartare? And just how are your children going to be roasted if you’re broiling? You guys are too funny!
Anonymous
Who is this “We”? The 8-12000 who died in Galveston? The 3000 who died in San Fran in 1906 (where, incidentally, the death toll might have been quite a bit higher had there not been federal troops available to intercede)? How about the millions affected by the Dust Bowl? Without government intervention, how many more, bankrupt, homeless, and without the means to leave, would have died?
You’re absolutely right, the people in areas unaffected by major disasters came through those disasters just fine. But our people, in our nation, suffered, and lost homes, and needed water, food, shelter, warmth, and died. And let’s recall, it’s “We the People,” not “Me the Lucky One, and Screw Those Guys Over There.”
FEMA clearly has flaws. That’s a reason to evaluate its performance, cut out the profiteering connections, and change its focus to have plans in place, equipment and access to personnel, and a flexible budget, because you never know when the unexpected disaster will hit, and how bad it will be. It’s not a reason to dump it, anymore than the EPA’s failures (largely in terms of enforcement, and largely due to budget cuts) should lead to its dissolution, or OSHA’s impairment of industry (by regulating them in such a manner as to reduce employee injury or death) should get it disbanded. These organizations may not have achieved everything they are needed to do, but without them, things would not be better.
People, we need to wake up here. Our country is over $14 trillion dollars in debt. Our debt accrues by over $4 billion dollars EVERY DAY. What are the headlines I wake up to today? FEMA Out of Money. From the article: “FEMA now admits the disaster aid shortfall could approach $5 billion for the upcoming budget year, and that’s before accounting for Irene.” FACT: We don’t have the money to continue this insanity.
If you want to build in a flood plain, or a major storm area, or a wetland, get some flood insurance and don’t expect the government to cover your losses and then help you rebuild in exactly the same place. If you can’t get private flood insurance, there is probably a reason – your house is a bad risk.
Ron Paul has the guts to stand up and say it like it is. He doesn’t back down. We CAN’T keep spending money at the rate we have been. And I’m sure it scares the living daylights out of every person and organization who is living off the teat of the federal government that he just may get elected this year. Ron Paul 2012!
Anonymous
So very true. Screw you if you live where there might be a blizzard, tornado, earthquake, fire, hurricane, invasion, epidemic, etc. Just die and get it over with already.
http://www.freemarketfan.com/ Free Market Fan
This is the nanny state mentality. It is as if you are a child and the government is the adult.
People need help in emergencies, but they don’t need beurocracy. neighbors, local emergency services, churches…they all fit the bill just fine.
Anonymous
So you’re advocating dissolving the Union? We don’t really need each other? Who pays for the market in a “free market”?
Anonymous
Regular Joe… you sound like a moron, and I’m afraid there are a lot more of you out there who have been coddled by the government for way too long and can’t imagine pulling yourself up by the bootstraps and doing something for yourself or your neighbor. Go dip some chew and buck off some shots cowboy, you’ve killed more than enough braincells of the people reading your inane comments, lol! comments, lol!
Anonymous
thatoneguy777, you sound like an asshat or perhaps someone suffering from coproencephaly. I’m guessing the later. Too many of you have been duped by other asshats into thinking all socialism is bad (while you enjoy being defended by our military, drive on our roads, breathe our air, call our police and fire departments, use our courts, etc).
I’m a farmer, not a cowboy. I don’t chew, nor do I “buck off some shots” (whatever the hell that means). I’m sure whomever you have reading this to you should be able to proofread your insane responses. Ask ‘em to remove your redundancies while they’re at it.
http://www.freemarketfan.com/ Free Market Fan
No I am saying these things can best be handled on a local and state level. the locals are familiar with their circumstances as they have been dealing with them their whole lives.
The free market is way to most efficiently supply what the public wants. If there is an emergency for example and the government slaps a price ceiling on it. (bottled water say) you will end up with shortages of the very thing that is most essential. In a free market prices would rise and people would look to take advantage of that price. A storeowner from a nearby state may drive overnight to the area with a truck of water. That supplies the need and is the very thing that will bring down the prices again. All this without government involvement. more here: http://www.freemarketfan.com/2010/06/evil-price-gouger.html
Anonymous
So, in a case of unpredictable, unavoidable calamity (like major tornadoes, mudslides, flooding, forest fires, hurricanes, earthquakes, whatever) you’re in favor of individuals engaging in blatant profiteering on items people need for survival, like water, instead of a government agency providing these things to prevent the death of the affected, because apparently profit is more important than human life? Wow. That’s….appalling.
Just out of curiosity, are you a ‘Christian’? And if you are, where exactly in the Bible did Jesus say “Blessed are the price-gougers, because it’s okay to take advantage of those in the direst need”?
http://www.freemarketfan.com/ Free Market Fan
There is nothing more important than human life. I also believe in charity and in the good will of man to help his fellow man in need. If in our example the water is donated by those with extra, the supply would stay constant and price wouldn’t rise, on the contrary it would be free.
What I am talking about is when supply is reduced, or demand rises and there is no extra water to be had. I that case government restrictions on price are extremely harmful. The higher price causes automatic rationing of goods..ie no one will clean out the store if the price is much higher. It also is a price signal to the marketplace that people should stop doing their regular activities and start supplying the need which has become apparent.
There is a problem with the way people view capitalaism these days. They are disgusted with the partnership between big business and gov’t so assume it is the fault of capitalism. In fact what we have today is a form of corporate welfare. Pure capitalists can only make money by fulfilling a need. Both sides benefit. If I exchange you my tie for your hat we both deem our situation as improved. It is the same if one side of the transaction involves dollar bills. No one is being taken advantage of.
Anonymous
So what about the case of natural disasters, when people may not have access to the money your system requires to buy the things they need to survive? ”Rationing of goods” may lead to deaths of those who can’t afford raised prices. Or is it okay for people to die, as long as it’s just the poor ones?
Louis Nardozi
Because we CAN’T expect you to act prudently, plan for disasters or get insurance. THAT would be asking TOO MUCH.
Eric Smith
Private insurance shares risks more efficiently than FEMA. You realize insurance companies hedge different risks right? Even an insurance company that writes strictly flood insurance would buy reinsurance through a company that covers a multitude of risks. Insurance companies are much better at pricing and hedging these risks than FEMA.
Local authorities are much better at helping locals rebuild than FEMA.
The only thing FEMA is good for is increasing the debt and getting in the way. Well and giving people economic incentive to not buy flood insurance.
Anonymous
“Local authorities are much better at helping locals rebuild than FEMA.” Really? How do you figure that?
I understand reinsurance, and diversity of risk. Yet we have the FDIC.
I disagree with your premise that FEMA is only “good” for bad things. You’ve made a statement with nothing to back it up.
If privatization is so good, why not privatize everything? Military? FAA? FCC? Courts? Interstate system? Inland waterways? Congress?
Eric Smith
I don’t have time to look up the articles, but during Kat there were several talking about how slow the bureaucracy of FEMA is. Alot of “hurry up and wait.” This is why Ron Paul suggests that letting local organization control clean up is a better strategy.
I’m not sure how the FDIC is relavent. FEMA is $20b in debt, Irene caused maybe $7b in damage by best estimates.
You privatization argument at the end is a Straw Man.
Anonymous
My asking you about other areas of privatization is in response to your espousing privatization of risk. It’s not a straw man, although I can see where you might desire it to be so as to avoid the discussion of free market -vs- government-based shared risk.
http://www.facebook.com/thaddeus.kaczor Thaddeus S. Kaczor Jr.
Sort of like what The Obama administration told Tennessee when they refused FEMA help after the flooding there, or Texans help when they experienced the biggest wildfires and drought in several generations. FEMA is used as a political football and cronyist moneypot by BOTH Republicrat AND Demopublican Big-Government types! We need to let the states keep the control over the relief efforts! Ron Paul isn’t against using federal funds in a truly national disaster- he just objects to all the strings attached, all the cronyism and corruption and the Federal bureaucracy that hinders people from getting the help they need and wastes BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars!
We are a nation that is made up of 50 independents states. Bernie go back and read your copy of the Constitution. The Feds have zero enumerated powers that allows them to create a FEMA. Get rid of it and defederalzie the National Guard so when stuff like this happens states can use their national guard.
Anonymous
Yep, let’s get the fed out of the *National* Guard….it ain’t really national. Make ‘em give back all the Hummers, deuce-and-a-halfs, M16′s, uniforms, funding, etc. States should stand on their own…completely….independently. You want assistance from your neighbor? Beg.
I suppose our National Guard should be protecting other Nation’s Borders as well as our own ?
Doesn’t that mean that those borders are our borders and we have conquered them?
No wonder the Afghan’s and Iraqis join the rebellion against our troops. We are dominating their land.
How would the American People dead with it, if Russia had a problem with one of our presidents and decided they had the power to invade us and inhabit our lands for over a decade? I’m sure some of us wouldn’t join a rebel force against the invasion.
Anonymous
Perhaps there’s a reason why the Soviet Union *didn’t* try to invade the US, despite their not liking more than one of our presidents. Think it through….give it a shot.
Anonymous
regular joe should get a job and quit sucking the teet of the government dole while sitting at home all day tweetin’ it up on the forums. But I s’pose that would be too much work!! Nevermind regular joe, keep on with the bon bon’s, sasparilla and soap opera’s… they are indeed your forte.
Your trite, two-sentence replies to everyone here make you look not only immature, but exceptionally unintelligent. Funny that I don’t see you offering a single solution or novel idea. So you want more of the same? Please share with me how you intend to pay for this when FEMA’s disaster relief fund is not only out of money, but $5 billion dollars in the hole and that’s BEFORE they even take Irene into account.
Our federal debt is $14 trillion dollars. And we’ve got a president who has increased our debt by $4.9 trillion in the last three years. He has also increased our military spending, asking for a record defense budget in 2011, asking for billions for more TSA body scanners in airports, etc. I could go on. You want more of the same? I sure don’t. You don’t want to cut here? Then where? I say providing funds for people to rebuild their homes 2 and 3 times in risky, flood-prone areas is an EXCELLENT place to start.
Anonymous
Funny, but I don’t see any solutions coming from you, either. Whole lotta “no” from you folks.
Oh really? FEMA is out of money. Here’s a solution. The federal government should stop subsidizing flood-prone homes.
* Private insurers rarely offer flood protection, believing that the risk is far too high. Instead, the National Flood Insurance Program — created in 1968 and currently run by FEMA — covers about 5.5 million homes across the country.
* Even when private insurers are contracted, the profits from such flood insurance are private, but the losses are socialized as private insurance companies bear none of the underwriting risk associated with this insurance.
* Either way, taxpayers are ultimately on the hook when these flood-prone homes go under water.
Sorry RegularJoe, but it’s time the American people started saying a whole lot more ”NO!”
Anonymous
Interesting.
What if I live in a home that is low risk – or no risk – of flooding then some schmucks do things upstream/uphill that makes my place a higher risk? What should be done about the coasts, with climate change affecting both sea levels and weather patterns? How do I deal with all the other schmucks that are affecting my space?
What about EPA….Pauloids seem to want it disbanded, right? What am I supposed to do when some CAFO dumps their shit in my stream, or in my water table? DO I get to take matters into my own hands? I’m a Second Amendment guy, and one hell of a shot. Can I cap the bastards when they trash my property when their manure lagoon bursts? What about when their GMO crops spread their pollen on my heritage crops and taint my seeds and and their spraying of poisons kills beneficial insects on my fields?
What if I want to smoke pot or have an abortion or not have to put up with public prayer? Pauloids gonna leave me alone or is it only *their* idea of gov’mint acceptable?
Eric Smith
So you are arguing we should have stronger property rights?
Anonymous
Of course, Eric. I support strong property Rights, as long as what you’re doing on your property doesn’t screw me on my property. Rights come with inherent responsibilities.
Eric Smith
You should read what Ron Paul says about property rights and how it pertains to the environment. I think you would agree.
Anonymous
There are things on which Dr. Paul and I agree. Just not enough for me to want him running our country.
Bill Bill
“Pauloids” believe that the governments place in society is to defend you and I from those very infringements of yours rights. If someone pollutes, they should be punished by means of due process, as large bodies of water and air belong to everyone as common resources and no one person is allowed to do harm to others for personal gain. But If you want to smoke pot, or drink, or do heroin, in the comfort of your own home without going out and hurting anyone, then that’s your own choice and the government shouldn’t be able to lock you away for years while taxpayers foot the bill for your incarceration. As for abortion, that’s not in the constitution, so it should left to the states and the local opinion to develop their own laws on that.
Anonymous
Double Billed, you and I were tracking nicely….right up to the point where you shot your own argument in the foot. Smoking pot and heroin are not in our Constitution, but both states and federal law prevent us from partaking. I believe you are correct that we should not be prevented from enjoying either. Drinking *is* in our Constitution…see the 18th and 21st Amendments. Abortion is legal because our Constitution has Right to Privacy and Equal Protection. Some states would love to outlaw abortion because some religious factions are opposed to abortion. Our Constitution protects me from their religion, so I shouldn’t have to follow someone else’s mythology regardless of what state I live in. If Paul were a true Libertarian, pot and abortion would not be issues at all.
Bill Bill
I understand that federal and state laws prohibit marijuana and other controlled substance use. My remarks about those were from a libertarian ideal perspective. Ron Paul does advocate the decriminalization of drugs and the end of the drug war in order to cease another era of senseless and ineffective prohibition that has added plenty of dollars to our current deficit and resulted in one of the highest imprisoned rates in the world. The Constitution gives no authority to Congress to create and fund the DEA. For Ron Paul, pot isn’t an issue, it’s a choice people should be allowed to make and enjoy if they please. As for abortion, it’s probably more of a grey area for him as doctor who delivered babies, seeing as it’s dealing with human life rather than recreational plant use.
The Constitution doesn’t protect you from religion, it protects the people from a state sponsored religion, and it gives every individual the right to practice (or not practice) theirs, so long as it doesn’t infringe upon another’s right to life and liberty. And although Dr. Paul doesn’t support abortion due to his moral or religious beliefs, his adherence to the Constitution would never allow him to impose anything accept the law of the land as it was intended to be applied.
RegularJoe, if you live in a home that is at low-risk or no-risk of flooding, then you wouldn’t be covered under the FEMA flood insurance program. You would have private homeowner’s insurance. And if some schmuck did something upsteam that caused damage to your home, you would have the same options as every other homeowner — pay for it yourself, file a claim with your insurance company or address the matter in court and ask for damages.
Under FEMA’s flood insurance program, the federal government pays to rebuild people’s homes in flood-prone areas. When this program was started in 1968 they felt that it would somehow “pay for itself.” Don’t ask me how. But the fact of the matter is the program is flat broke.
As for the second amendment, I’ll have you know that Ron Paul is an INCREDIBLY strong defender of the second amendment and has written much legislation to protect our second amendment rights under the Constitution. He’s earned an A+ by the National Rifle Association. (I’m not a gun-person myself, but my brothers are hunters and appreciate that.)
As for all other issues, Ron Paul is a libertarian and a Constitutionalist. His views are that people should have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, without excessive intrusion by the federal government. And when there is a matter to be decided that does NOT fall within the duties of the federal government, as defined by the Constitution, these decisions should be made by state/local government or the individual.
p.s. I am so very sorry for saying calling you immature and unintelligent in a previous post. That was uncalled for. It sounds like you have serious issues that you are concerned about.
Anonymous
To your last paragraph….apology accepted and also proffered.
Anonymous
“no” is the solution. no more FEMA, TSA, ect. no constitutional authority!
Anonymous
It seems many of the denizens of Asshatistan have come out of their caves to comment today. Interesting that they’d use that gov’mint-created infrastructure known as the Internet to promulgate their coproencephalic rantings with us.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-King/1324388382 Jason King
Block, Walter and Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. 2007. “Katrina and the Future of New Orleans,” Telos, Vol. 139, Summer, pp. 170–185): One week after the hurricane, FEMA ordered the Army Corps of Engineers to buy 211 million pounds of ice from IAP Worldwide Services of Florida. Trucking companies were notified of a grand opportunity since the government was paying the bills for delivery, and the dispatchers sent out the word. There is no space to explore the workings of IAP Worldwide, but the company, which relies heavily on tax dollars as a federal contractor, has a new CEO who most recently held the position of vice president of national security programs for the notorious Kellogg Brown and Root. His name is David Swindle.
But back to the story of the ensuing chaos. One trucker picked up ice in Greenville, Pennsylvania, …and was told to drive it to Carthage, Missouri. But when he arrived in Carthage, he was told by a FEMA official to go to Montgomery, Alabama. After a day and a half sitting in Montgomery, he was told to go to Camp Shelby, Mississippi, after which he was sent to Selma, Alabama, after which he was sent to Emporia, Virginia, where he stayed for a week burning fuel, until he was sent to North Carolina, and finally to Nebraska, where he dropped the ice in a government storage unit. That’s 4,000 miles over a period of two weeks. This was hardly the only case.
The news media chronicled the stories of these truckers. A truck full of ice was sent from Dubuque, Iowa, to Meridian, Mississippi, then to Barksdale Base in Louisiana, then to Columbia, South Carolina, and finally to Cumberland, Maryland, where he waited for six days before being sent to Bettendorf, Iowa, where the ice was unloaded. Another truck was sent from Wisconsin to Missouri to Selma to Memphis, Tennessee, before finally dropping off the ice in a storage unit. There were 4000 drivers enlisted in this incredible charade. No one knows for sure how much ice ever got through or how much if any good it did.
In one of the first incidents reported of what was to be two weeks of catastrophe, a group of volunteer fire fighters from Houston came to New Orleans wanting to help. They were told to wait. They waited 48 hours and were ordered to go back. A group of doctors from Maryland tried to get in but FEMA sent them on to the Red Cross, which said it could do nothing without the approval of federal health officials.
After the New Orleans mayor made a call for firefighters to come help, 1,000 volunteers were sent to Atlanta, where they were put in a conference room at the Sheraton hotel and subjected to seminars on sexual harassment and other bureaucratic matters. They were then told that their job would be to distribute flyers with a message on it: call 1-800-621-FEMA. Many or even most of these well-trained people left town. Those who stuck it out and headed for Louisiana were aghast that their first assignment was not to fight fires, which had been raging for a week, but to escort President Bush on his TV-laden tour of the area. All the photos can be seen on WhiteHouse.gov.
In fact, FEMA refused offers of help of all sorts, mainly because of issues of control. FEMA declined help from Amtrak in evacuating people from New Orleans. The Chicago municipal government wanted to send volunteers from the fire department, police department, and hospitals all over town, but FEMA said no. The same happened to New Mexico, whose governor volunteered equipment and personnel.
FEMA prevented Wal-Mart from delivering three tank trucks full of water, and the Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel. As for the National Guard, for days it would not allow reporters into the Superdome where tens of thousands were trapped. People were hungry and thirsty, but the National Guard would not allow the Red Cross to deliver any food. Here is the astounding statement from the spokesperson of the Red Cross: “The Homeland Security Department has requested and continues to request that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans… Right now access is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities…. We cannot get into New Orleans against their orders.”
The Salvation Army attempted to rescue two of its own officers trapped in a building and on dialysis. They rented three boats for a rescue. But they were not allowed through , though to be fair the Salvation Army didn’t specifically name the government as at fault, but it did point out that all private efforts were running into similar kinds of obstacles, so the message was clear. Meanwhile, the USS Bataan, a floating hospital for 600 patients, that happened to be at sea and rode out the storm, was still sitting empty by the third day, not permitted to do its job.
An astounding case of ineptness comes to us from the case of three Duke University students who drove to New Orleans to help but were turned away by the National Guard. They had seen the news and knew that they could help, and wondered why they should be pushed around by bureaucrats. Being college sophomores, they took a risk. They forged press credentials, with fake IDs and shirts and the works. They went back and adopted a haughty tone. The National Guard waved them through immediately. Then the students drove to the Convention Center. There they found thousands of sick, hungry, thirsty, and dying people in desperate need. They found a man who had welts all over his body. He was in a tree covered with fire ants as the flood waters rose, and there he stayed being bitten repeatedly for up to 24 hours.
The boys picked him up along with three others and drove them to a Baton Rouge hospital. They made another trip there and back with more people before they began to become frightened of what the government might do to them. On one return trip, they observed 150 empty buses driving the other way – and they have a video to prove it.
One can only express astonishment at how the government treated the tens of thousands of people it had herded like cattle into large public spaces. For reasons still unclear, the government couldn’t seem to get its act together on transporting them out even as the people themselves were forbidden to leave. Once the central planners decided to move all these people from the Superdome to the Astrodome, no means of transport arrived, even as aerial photos showed miles and miles of public buses available.
Indeed, the first bus to reach Houston was not driven or approved by the government. It was commandeered by 20-year-old Jabbar Gibson, who drove it from the floods and picked up as many people as he could and drove all the way to Houston, a 13-hour drive! He beat the government’s system by a day. Meanwhile, the tens of thousands of people who had been shoved into the Superdome on Sunday, before the floods came, were still suffering in that massive calamity by Friday and Saturday.
Perhaps the most astounding case of incompetence has received the least attention. It relates to a 500-boat flotilla stretching over 5 miles that left for New Orleans from Lafayette. It involved 1,000 people who had hoped to rescue hospital patients and take them to safety. It consisted of private boaters, fishermen, hunters, and others who had spent their entire lives navigating Louisiana waterways. Once this caravan arrived, they were turned away by the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, which was now being run by FEMA. All five hundred boats were turned away and ordered out.
Now keep in mind that this was three days after the hurricane hit. There were hundreds of people inside the Charity Hospital in New Orleans alone. They had no supplies and only three had been rescued. At this very time, the head of the FEMA-ized Wildlife and Fisheries Department announced to the world on television that it needed no help from anyone and that it had all matters under control.See More5 · Like · Reply · 21 hours ago
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Block, Walter and Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. 2007. “Katrina and the Future of New Orleans,” Telos, Vol. 139, Summer, pp. 170–185): One week after the hurricane, FEMA ordered the Army Corps of Engineers to buy 211 million pounds of ice from IAP Worldwide Services of Florida. Trucking companies were notified of a grand opportunity since the government was paying the bills for delivery, and the dispatchers sent out the word. There is no space to explore the workings of IAP Worldwide, but the company, which relies heavily on tax dollars as a federal contractor, has a new CEO who most recently held the position of vice president of national security programs for the notorious Kellogg Brown and Root. His name is David Swindle.
But back to the story of the ensuing chaos. One trucker picked up ice in Greenville, Pennsylvania, …and was told to drive it to Carthage, Missouri. But when he arrived in Carthage, he was told by a FEMA official to go to Montgomery, Alabama. After a day and a half sitting in Montgomery, he was told to go to Camp Shelby, Mississippi, after which he was sent to Selma, Alabama, after which he was sent to Emporia, Virginia, where he stayed for a week burning fuel, until he was sent to North Carolina, and finally to Nebraska, where he dropped the ice in a government storage unit. That’s 4,000 miles over a period of two weeks. This was hardly the only case.
The news media chronicled the stories of these truckers. A truck full of ice was sent from Dubuque, Iowa, to Meridian, Mississippi, then to Barksdale Base in Louisiana, then to Columbia, South Carolina, and finally to Cumberland, Maryland, where he waited for six days before being sent to Bettendorf, Iowa, where the ice was unloaded. Another truck was sent from Wisconsin to Missouri to Selma to Memphis, Tennessee, before finally dropping off the ice in a storage unit. There were 4000 drivers enlisted in this incredible charade. No one knows for sure how much ice ever got through or how much if any good it did.
In one of the first incidents reported of what was to be two weeks of catastrophe, a group of volunteer fire fighters from Houston came to New Orleans wanting to help. They were told to wait. They waited 48 hours and were ordered to go back. A group of doctors from Maryland tried to get in but FEMA sent them on to the Red Cross, which said it could do nothing without the approval of federal health officials.
After the New Orleans mayor made a call for firefighters to come help, 1,000 volunteers were sent to Atlanta, where they were put in a conference room at the Sheraton hotel and subjected to seminars on sexual harassment and other bureaucratic matters. They were then told that their job would be to distribute flyers with a message on it: call 1-800-621-FEMA. Many or even most of these well-trained people left town. Those who stuck it out and headed for Louisiana were aghast that their first assignment was not to fight fires, which had been raging for a week, but to escort President Bush on his TV-laden tour of the area. All the photos can be seen on WhiteHouse.gov.
In fact, FEMA refused offers of help of all sorts, mainly because of issues of control. FEMA declined help from Amtrak in evacuating people from New Orleans. The Chicago municipal government wanted to send volunteers from the fire department, police department, and hospitals all over town, but FEMA said no. The same happened to New Mexico, whose governor volunteered equipment and personnel.
FEMA prevented Wal-Mart from delivering three tank trucks full of water, and the Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel. As for the National Guard, for days it would not allow reporters into the Superdome where tens of thousands were trapped. People were hungry and thirsty, but the National Guard would not allow the Red Cross to deliver any food. Here is the astounding statement from the spokesperson of the Red Cross: “The Homeland Security Department has requested and continues to request that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans… Right now access is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities…. We cannot get into New Orleans against their orders.”
The Salvation Army attempted to rescue two of its own officers trapped in a building and on dialysis. They rented three boats for a rescue. But they were not allowed through , though to be fair the Salvation Army didn’t specifically name the government as at fault, but it did point out that all private efforts were running into similar kinds of obstacles, so the message was clear. Meanwhile, the USS Bataan, a floating hospital for 600 patients, that happened to be at sea and rode out the storm, was still sitting empty by the third day, not permitted to do its job.
An astounding case of ineptness comes to us from the case of three Duke University students who drove to New Orleans to help but were turned away by the National Guard. They had seen the news and knew that they could help, and wondered why they should be pushed around by bureaucrats. Being college sophomores, they took a risk. They forged press credentials, with fake IDs and shirts and the works. They went back and adopted a haughty tone. The National Guard waved them through immediately. Then the students drove to the Convention Center. There they found thousands of sick, hungry, thirsty, and dying people in desperate need. They found a man who had welts all over his body. He was in a tree covered with fire ants as the flood waters rose, and there he stayed being bitten repeatedly for up to 24 hours.
The boys picked him up along with three others and drove them to a Baton Rouge hospital. They made another trip there and back with more people before they began to become frightened of what the government might do to them. On one return trip, they observed 150 empty buses driving the other way – and they have a video to prove it.
One can only express astonishment at how the government treated the tens of thousands of people it had herded like cattle into large public spaces. For reasons still unclear, the government couldn’t seem to get its act together on transporting them out even as the people themselves were forbidden to leave. Once the central planners decided to move all these people from the Superdome to the Astrodome, no means of transport arrived, even as aerial photos showed miles and miles of public buses available.
Indeed, the first bus to reach Houston was not driven or approved by the government. It was commandeered by 20-year-old Jabbar Gibson, who drove it from the floods and picked up as many people as he could and drove all the way to Houston, a 13-hour drive! He beat the government’s system by a day. Meanwhile, the tens of thousands of people who had been shoved into the Superdome on Sunday, before the floods came, were still suffering in that massive calamity by Friday and Saturday.
Perhaps the most astounding case of incompetence has received the least attention. It relates to a 500-boat flotilla stretching over 5 miles that left for New Orleans from Lafayette. It involved 1,000 people who had hoped to rescue hospital patients and take them to safety. It consisted of private boaters, fishermen, hunters, and others who had spent their entire lives navigating Louisiana waterways. Once this caravan arrived, they were turned away by the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, which was now being run by FEMA. All five hundred boats were turned away and ordered out.
Now keep in mind that this was three days after the hurricane hit. There were hundreds of people inside the Charity Hospital in New Orleans alone. They had no supplies and only three had been rescued. At this very time, the head of the FEMA-ized Wildlife and Fisheries Department announced to the world on television that it needed no help from anyone and that it had all matters under control.
RON PAUL 2012!!
Anonymous
I would expect nothing less than for the self-proclaimed socialist, Bernie Sanders, to butt heads with Paul on this.
Ron Paul is right. As usual.
Anonymous
I’m curious where the other “small government” and “states rights” candidates stand on this issue… or are they to afraid to say?
http://www.facebook.com/lnardozi Louis Nardozi
Yeah, just like he was on that ‘Audit The FED’ thing I’m trying to take credit for now. No, it WASN’T his idea! That was a Bernie Sanders Special! PLEEEASSSEEE re-elect me, I’m too LAME to do REAL work!
Sorry – just channeling Sanders there for a minute.
Peter Lifton
More RINO big government republicans trying to attack Ron Paul for common sense ideas.
http://www.facebook.com/thaddeus.kaczor Thaddeus S. Kaczor Jr.
FEMA is used as a political football and cronyist moneypot by BOTH Republicrat AND Demopublican Big-Government types! We need to let the states keep the control over the relief efforts! Ron Paul isn’t against using federal funds in a truly national disaster- he just objects to all the strings attached, all the cronyism and corruption and the Federal bureaucracy that hinders people from getting the help they need and wastes BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars!
Anonymous
Vermont,you can fit 68.3 of them into Texas,geographically speaking.Texas has a disaster fund.When hurricane Ike hit Galveston in 2008 Texas told FEMA they did not require their assistance.FEMA barged in on their cleanup and angered a lot of Texans.The reason they came in was so they could use the national guard to keep local contractors from entering the most exclusive neighborhoods.We pay for our own robbery.FEMA families are all millionaires.Sanders has no disaster plan and he is trying to point fingers at someone who is trying to get his State more emergency funds without a useless bureaucracy stealing from it first.Idiot?Sander’s got some splainin’ to do.