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Open letter to readers: Today and tomorrow

By Lynda Waddington | 11.17.11

Wednesday was a difficult day for The American Independent News Network, which is the larger entity that operates The Iowa Independent. Our chief executive and founder announced two of our sister sites would close and their content would be moved to The American Independent.

ACS lockout continues; plan emerges to repeal sugar protections

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By Virginia Chamlee | 11.15.11

A recently introduced bill could have far-reaching impact on the U.S. sugar industry, including American Crystal Sugar, a farmer-owned cooperative that locked out 1,300 Midwest workers on Aug. 1.

Cain campaign: Farmers know more about regulations than EPA

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By Andrew Duffelmeyer | 11.15.11

The chairman for Herman Cain’s Iowa effort says the campaign “relied more on the word of farmers than Washington regulators” in deciding to run an ad containing claims the Environmental Protection Agency says are false.

Mathis wins, Democrats maintain Senate control

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By Lynda Waddington | 11.08.11

The Iowa Senate will remain under the control of a slim 26-25 Democratic majority when it reconvenes in January 2012.

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PR: Nation should work to address veterans’ challenges

By Press Release Reprints | 11.11.11

BRUCE BRALEY RELEASE — As US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan ends, it’s more important than ever that our nation works to address the challenges faced by the men and women who fought there.

PR: Honoring veterans, help in hiring

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CHUCK GRASSLEY RELEASE — A difficult job market is challenging the soldiers, sailors and airmen who have protected America’s interests by serving in the Armed Forces.

PR: In honor of America’s veterans

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TOM LATHAM RELEASE — No one has done more to secure the freedom enjoyed by every single American than our veterans and those currently serving in the armed services.

PR: Honoring and supporting our nation’s veterans

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DAVE LOEBSACK RELEASE — Veterans Day is an opportunity to reflect on the service of generations of veterans and to honor the sacrifices they and their families have made so that we may live in peace and freedom here at home.

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Anti-judge bus tour dwarfed by pro-retention rally

Eastern Iowa rally to retain Supreme Court justices the largest thus far
By Lynda Waddington | 10.28.10 | 7:00 am

CEDAR RAPIDS — If event attendees are any indication of ballot totals following midterm elections Tuesday, three Iowa Supreme Court justices up for a retention vote next week will overwhelmingly maintain their seats.

At least 150 people filed through security at the Linn County Courthouse Wednesday afternoon in order to stand in support of the justices, who have been targeted by several national anti-gay groups for their unanimous 2009 ruling that legalized same-sex marriage in Iowa.

An hour later and five blocks east, supporters of the movement to oust the justices numbered 20 — and were nearly matched in numbers by counter-demonstrators. Supporters on both sides view the conflict as fundamental to the fabric of an ideal society, albeit for differing reasons, and emotions ran high when those of opposing views met face to face.

A battle for values

Randy Crawford of Iowa City waves his sign and jokes with others gathered in Cedar Rapids to push for the ouster of judges (Photo: Lynda Waddington/The Iowa Independent).

U.S. Rep. Steve King, R-Kiron, who rallied Cedar Rapids attendees to vote against judicial retention in an event organized by the Family Research Council and the National Organization for Marriage, told anti-abortion activists in the immediate aftermath of the court’s 2009 decision that if the institution of marriage wasn’t maintained as being between only one man and one woman that other social conservative values would also be decimated. Speaking exclusively with The Iowa Independent following Wednesday’s event, King reaffirmed those statements and expanded on why he believes the institution of marriage is so important.

“I think that if we can’t defend marriage, that it becomes very hard to defend life,” King said. “Marriage is the crucible by which we pour all of our values and pass them on to our children, and that is how the culture is renewed each time. So, if we lose marriage — for instance, if our children are raised in warehouses, so to speak. There have been civilizations that have tried to do that. The Spartans did that. They took the children away and taught them to be warriors. It’s a good way to defend a country, but not much of a way to run a civilization.

“So, I’m afraid if that happened — if we lose the marriage, we lose the home, we lose the nuclear family then we can’t teach our values. We won’t be able to teach our faith. We won’t be able to teach life. We won’t be able to teach our Constitutional values either. That’s why I’m afraid it’s going to be very, very difficult to defend life.”

With a nod to the group of people still gathered nearby in defense of the Supreme Court justices, King added: “Go over and talk to the counter-protesters. Ask how many of them are pro-life. I’d be surprised if there are very many.”

While speaking to those gathered in Green Square Park, King made the case that the justices should be removed because they “legislated from the bench” when they over-turned legislation that he as a state senator helped author to define marriage as being between one man and one woman.

“The voice of the people needs to be represented through your duly elected legislative branch — that’s the constitutional republic that is Iowa and is the United States of America,” King said. “The voice of the people was reflected in Iowa’s Defense of Marriage Act. Gov. [Terry] Branstad signed that piece of legislation in 1998, and it became the law of the land. We wondered then why we even needed to bother because no one then even questioned what marriage was. But now we have a rogue court that has gone outside the limitations of the Constitution and decided that they are going to impose special rights on people based upon what they claim they do. I’m here to tell you that no court can confer special rights on anyone. … This court has reached outside its bounds.”

Randy Crawford of Iowa City said he intends to vote for the removal of the justices because he is concerned about the judiciary overstepping its reach and also about the propensity of homosexuals within his community.

“My primary reason for being here is because I believe the Supreme Court should not be legislating from the bench. But I also believe that homosexuality is bad thing,” he said. “It used to be useful when we were cavemen and we needed people to guard the caves full of women and children. If I’m a guy out hunting, I want to leave someone back at the cave tending to my wife and kids, and I don’t want a normal guy having that kind of access to my wife and kids. So, in our evolution, you can see that there use to be a utility for homosexuality, but that was when we were cavemen and we aren’t cavemen anymore. So, homosexuality is obsolete.”

Although Crawford believes that homosexuality is no longer needed by modern mankind, he brushes off the idea that he automatically dislikes people who are gay. He says he believes that private lives are just that and that he took a “live and let live” attitude until he discovered something more sinister at work.

“If people want to behave like the homosexuals I knew in high school, college and so-forth then it isn’t a problem,” he said. “But you can see what happens when homosexuals get power — like in Iowa City. They are running rampant. They are doing vicious stuff. … Read Shakespeare’s Othello. Basically the homosexuals are like the Iago figure.”

Crawford said the “nasty homosexual network” in Iowa City is “like conspiracy and racketeering,” and ultimately, “the Iowa Supreme Court should not be running interference for rackets.”

A battle for freedom

Don Rowen, a former leader of the Iowa Federation of Labor, says he and his labor brothers and sisters know from experience how court decisions can sting when the law is interpreted in such a way as to go against personal views.

“It goes without saying that workers are no strangers to disagreements with court rulings, but if the courts did not not adequately deal with necessary workers’ issues, unions have always turned to the legislative branch to enact laws to protect workers at the state and federal levels,” said Rowen, one of three speakers participating in a “Homegrown Justice” tour sponsored by Fair Courts for Us. “Our response has never been to get rid of judges who did not rule in our favor. … Working to oust judges is nothing more than political retribution.”

Speakers at this larger rally wanted to impress upon voters the need for the state to have a judicial branch that makes rulings without first taking the state’s political temperature.

Iowa Regent Ruth Harkin, a former Story County Attorney, said it is the obligation of every Iowan to keep the state's judicial branch free of politics (Photo: Lynda Waddington/The Iowa Independent).

Speaking to The Iowa Independent after the rally, Ruth Harkin, a member of the Iowa Board of Regents, wife to U.S. Sen. Tom Harkin and former Story County Attorney, said that Iowans need to thoroughly consider what could happen if Chuck Hurley of the Iowa Family Policy Center got his wish that all 74 judges on the November ballot be ousted.

“It would just be chaos,” Harkin said. “As we heard here today, there are thousands of cases that go through our system and the people involved in them need the help of the court. My sister is a part-time magistrate in Decorah. When she decides cases for the protection of children, the decision needs to happen that day.”

Speaking as an attorney, Harkin said the state’s legal system and judiciary is “really the envy of the nation” because it has historically functioned outside the realm of ever-changing political whims. She, like the other speakers and those gathered for the rally, are concerned that some are prepared to toss that aside on the back of a single decision with which they find disagreement.

“I am very concerned about the risk these out-of-state special interest groups are bringing to our state. The attacks against our judiciary in this election are unprecedented and unacceptable. The last place politics should be injected is in a judge’s chambers” she said. “As Iowans we share a common duty to stand up for fairness, to fend off these fanatical views and to make sure that our judicial system continues to work for all of us.”

Cedar Rapids attorney Bill McCartan began his public remarks by acknowledging that he is a “small government” Republican, and denounced the Iowa for Freedom group, founded by former GOP gubernatorial candidate Bob Vander Plaats, for its “perverse” name.

“Where will we hide if the independence of our judiciary is destroyed on Tuesday?” asked McCartan. “Where will we hide when we go before the court and it is simply a matter of which side is more popular? Where will we hide when it is a matter of which side has donated the most money to the judge that will hear our case?

“The people who are running that [Judge] bus around this state, who claim to be for freedom, would tear down the institution that secures all of our freedoms. I don’t think that is going to happen. Iowans are descent people, and they don’t like what under-lies the message on the side of that bus. More importantly, Iowans are smart people, and they know what the word freedom really means.”

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  • Anonymous

    It’s sad to see a member of the US Congress display a complete lack of understanding of the fundamental structure of our government as defined in the US Constitution. Stevie, the Judicial branch is there to provide the checks and balance on what legislators do when pandering to their constituencies. When you infringe on the rights of the minority, the Judiciary is there to tell you “No”. Now go back to your cave and read a fourth-grade civics book and learn something.

    • Anonymous

      It’s sad to see a commentator display a complete lack of understanding of the fundamental structure of our government as defined in the US Constitution, or the Iowa Constitution either. Joey, the Judicial branch is there to provide the checks and balances on what legislators do without pandering to their deviant perverted constituencies, even though they were bought into the Statehouse with homosexual dollars poured in by Tim Gill from Colorado. Particularly the Justices are there to follow the Constitution as written, and not invent magical hallucinatory entitlements to authority and rights that were ‘previously unimagined.’ If it were simply a matter of protecting minority rights, judges couldn’t throw murderers in jail because murderers, after all, are a minority. Rather than relying on mindless knee-jerk suppositions from previously unimagined thin air, both you and the Supreme Court need to realize the Constitutions of the United States and Iowa are for following, not prostituting at will on the basis of imaginary and undocumented pretexts which they fabricate because the Constitution does not contain them in the first place. As undocumented as are the illegal aliens, the Supreme Court of Iowa is similarly undocumented. They are in the process of making themselves into illegal aliens from the rule of law.

      • Anonymous

        Clearly, when you got your cum laude biology degree, you didn’t have to take any classes on civics, law, or ethics.

        I also find it hard to take seriously any criticism where pro-gay litigation monies originated, from a man touring Iowa on a bus funded by out-of-state organizations of NOM and FRC. Did you take vocabulary when you were in college? Look up “hypocrite”

        How about any ‘logic’ classes? Your very bad attempt at comparing homosexual people as akin to murderers would indicate otherwise.

        You state that the constitutions are for following, and that their ruling was ‘knee jerk’, all the while proseltyzing that laws and amendments are needed to prevent SSM. You do realize that implies that without such laws/amendments a right to SSM exists, yes?

        And that all the unconstitutional laws and ammendments and even DOMA that got written were themselves a knee-jerk reaction to the threat of being legal in Hawaii back in the 90′s, yes?

      • Anonymous

        Clearly, when you got your cum laude biology degree, you didn’t have to take any classes on civics, law, or ethics.

        I also find it hard to take seriously any criticism where pro-gay litigation monies originated, from a man touring Iowa on a bus funded by out-of-state organizations of NOM and FRC. Did you take vocabulary when you were in college? Look up “hypocrite”

        How about any ‘logic’ classes? Your very bad attempt at comparing homosexual people as akin to murderers would indicate otherwise.

        You state that the constitutions are for following, and that their ruling was ‘knee jerk’, all the while proseltyzing that laws and amendments are needed to prevent SSM. You do realize that implies that without such laws/amendments a right to SSM exists, yes?

        And that all the unconstitutional laws and ammendments and even DOMA that got written were themselves a knee-jerk reaction to the threat of being legal in Hawaii back in the 90′s, yes?

      • Anonymous

        Time to adjust the meds, Randy. Then follow the same advice I gave to Stevie. Alternatively, you could simply move to Ku Kluk King’s district….you’ll fit right in, as many of them are batshit crazy, too.

      • Anonymous

        Time to adjust the meds, Randy. Then follow the same advice I gave to Stevie. Alternatively, you could simply move to Ku Kluk King’s district….you’ll fit right in, as many of them are batshit crazy, too.

    • Anonymous

      It’s sad to see a commentator display a complete lack of understanding of the fundamental structure of our government as defined in the US Constitution, or the Iowa Constitution either. Joey, the Judicial branch is there to provide the checks and balances on what legislators do without pandering to their deviant perverted constituencies, even though they were bought into the Statehouse with homosexual dollars poured in by Tim Gill from Colorado. Particularly the Justices are there to follow the Constitution as written, and not invent magical hallucinatory entitlements to authority and rights that were ‘previously unimagined.’ If it were simply a matter of protecting minority rights, judges couldn’t throw murderers in jail because murderers, after all, are a minority. Rather than relying on mindless knee-jerk suppositions from previously unimagined thin air, both you and the Supreme Court need to realize the Constitutions of the United States and Iowa are for following, not prostituting at will on the basis of imaginary and undocumented pretexts which they fabricate because the Constitution does not contain them in the first place. As undocumented as are the illegal aliens, the Supreme Court of Iowa is similarly undocumented. They are in the process of making themselves into illegal aliens from the rule of law.

  • ConstitutionFan

    Randy Crawford of Iowa City said [...] “[Homosexuality] used to be useful when we were cavemen and we needed people to guard the caves full of women and children. If I’m a guy out hunting, I want to leave someone back at the cave tending to my wife and kids, and I don’t want a normal guy having that kind of access to my wife and kids. So, in our evolution, you can see that there use to be a utility for homosexuality, but that was when we were cavemen and we aren’t cavemen anymore. So, homosexuality is obsolete.”

    I'd not have thought it possible: Steve King gave a speech, yet someone else there actually managed to say something even more ignorant than what King said.

    • RandyCrawford

      No, you're just another poorly educated babbler who doesn't know how evolution works. For instance, Pierre-Robin and Treacher-Collins syndromes reappear from time to time because they hearken back to the days when our ancestors were fish, and we had open gill slits. The same gill slits appear in every human's embryological development, but are covered over by neck tissue in subsequent intrauterine development because, having evolved lungs subsequent to our former ichthylogical status, open gill slits are now obsolete. When Treacher-Collins or Pierre-Robin appear, they are merely atavisms which are rare, because they trace back to millions of years ago. Homosexuality was useful to cavemen as recently as 10,000 years ago, so evolutionarily speaking it hasn't had time to disappear yet. Homosexuality doesn't produce children, and today it is useful to society and evolution for nothing past spreading various venereal diseases like syphilis, AIDS, and fluoroquinolone-resistent gonorrhea. Thousands of years ago the genetically-imprinted utility of homosexuality was that it provided a few people in each tribe to be caregivers while the men were away hunting. That provided survival value even though those who were completely homosexual didn't transmit the genes to non-existent children. That was then, this is now. Most homes today don't need pseudomales to be standing around guarding from the raids of enemy tribesmen and bears and saber-toothed tigers, thus homosexuality is now as obsolete as having holes in your neck so you can breathe like a fish.

      • Anonymous

        If you believe that homosexuals are born the way they are then how can you call them perverts and discriminate against them?

        I can’t figure out whether your irrationality is greater than ignorance but I’m quite sure your hatefulness trumps all.

      • Anonymous

        If you believe that homosexuals are born the way they are then how can you call them perverts and discriminate against them?

        I can’t figure out whether your irrationality is greater than ignorance but I’m quite sure your hatefulness trumps all.

      • Anonymous

        I’m struggling to follow your logic here:

        1) Syndromes reappear because our ancestors were fish
        2) Our ancestors were fish, so they had gills
        3) Our ancestors had gills, so gill slits appear during human development (sounds like “ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny,” which I believe has been debunked)
        4) Syndromes reappear as atavisms, but they are rare.
        5) Homosexuality was useful in the past, but it hasn’t been removed from the gene pool.
        6) Homosexuals were caregivers.
        7) Most homes don’t need pseudomale caregivers.
        8) Homosexuality is obsolete. QED

        This sounds like overt Social Darwinism, although I really am struggling with your logic. Couldn’t you make this same argument, but replace “homosexual” with “black” or “disabled,” and justify the “genetic disappearance” of anyone you don’t like?

      • Anonymous

        I’m struggling to follow your logic here:

        1) Syndromes reappear because our ancestors were fish
        2) Our ancestors were fish, so they had gills
        3) Our ancestors had gills, so gill slits appear during human development (sounds like “ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny,” which I believe has been debunked)
        4) Syndromes reappear as atavisms, but they are rare.
        5) Homosexuality was useful in the past, but it hasn’t been removed from the gene pool.
        6) Homosexuals were caregivers.
        7) Most homes don’t need pseudomale caregivers.
        8) Homosexuality is obsolete. QED

        This sounds like overt Social Darwinism, although I really am struggling with your logic. Couldn’t you make this same argument, but replace “homosexual” with “black” or “disabled,” and justify the “genetic disappearance” of anyone you don’t like?

      • Privydigger

        So, by your logic, homosexuality is NOT a choice that can be altered through reeducation or re-conditioning, as most homophobics insist. Clearly, you are proclaiming a biological basis, thus the question is whether the principle of “equal protection of the laws” should be construed so narrowly as to deny or deprive those who may be biologically predisposed to be different from you the same protections you enjoy. Do you really want to live in a state where bullies seeks to intimidate and undermine the legal system toward the end of imposing their brand of legal discrimination and forcing a status of inequality on others who may be biologically different than you? Please read Section 1 of Amendment 14 and let us know what it means– and please look carefully for the clause with the asterisk and the fine print that says “gays and lesbians are excluded from the protections afforded to all other citizens under this provision.”

        • Anonymous

          Homosexuality is biologically based, but it is not an all-or-none entity. Some people are entirely homo, some are entirely hetero, and there are many gradations in between of bisexuality. Some people change where they are in the spectrum at different phases of life. Some people try to change their sexuality and accomplish a change, while others try and try and can’t make a change (analogous to being able to quit alcoholism or not, where some are and some aren’t susceptible in the first place). The reason for the foregoing is that homosexuality was a useful addition to the survival armamentarium of the human species early on in the Stone Age, so it is genetically programmed at varying levels into our species. The same is true of murder, rape, stealing, etc. Just because they enhanced survival thousands of years ago doesn’t mean they are OK in the context of modern society, especially because of the high disease rates transmitted (e.g. AIDS, syphils, fluoroquinolone-resistant gonorrhea) via homosexuality. Equal protection applies to people– not to destructive behavior. If a person has rape tendencies, it is their responsibility to control them. If they can’t control themselves, that’s what the law is for. If a person has homosexual tendencies, it is their responsiblility to control them. If they can’t control themselves, that’s what the law is for. Ditto for murder, stealing, etc. As a matter of fact, homosexuals DO have the right to marry. But not their sisters or mothers or brothers or fathers or kids. That would be incest, got it? And homosexuality is incest in the extreme, in that sperm cells and sperm cells cannot even fertilize one another. Nor can eggs and eggs. Just as it is legitimate to exclude brother and sister from marrying, it is legitimate to exclude brother and brother, sister and sister, male and male, or female and female. That’s why your argument purportedly based on the 14th Amendment is specious. If you really want to get into what the Constitution says, why not look at the Preamble: “We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” You could interpret the written words to mean that “we the people” applies only to people who leave posterity, and therefore since homosexual behavior doesn’t produce posterity, consequently homosexuals aren’t included among “we the people” viz. aren’t citizens, and therefore have no rights whatsoever under the U.S. Constitution.

          • Anonymous

            By your argument here would citizenship require production of viable offspring as the product of a heterosexual marriage? Would women lose citizenship rights at menopause, because they can no longer create posterity? Or are they grandfathered in and get to keep it as long as they breed before menopause? What about heterosexuals who make a choice to not have children, do they get to be citizens? Or those that have fertility problems, would they be excluded from the rights of citizens?

            Your argument regarding citizenship rights not applying to homosexuals is also specious. You’ve read the Preamble, but did you actually read the 14th Amendment? Here’s section one, the one that makes your posterity test for citizenship, well, unconstitutional. “Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

            But in reality the 14th Amendment doesn’t actually apply to the Iowa case, because they decided it using the Iowa Constitution, not according to the US Constitution.

      • Anonymous

        I know perfectly well how evolution works. I know it well enough to recognize that your ‘explanation’ is merely an unfounded ‘just-so story’ driven solely by your own evident emotional hostility towards gays and lesbians, not a demonstrable hypothesis. (One which fails to account for lesbians, by the way.)

        And even if your just-so story had been true, so what? What relevance would it bear to the question of granting gays and lesbians marriage equality? None. They exist, they are as they are, so is there any sound reason in the here-and-now not to permit them the same civil rights as others? There is not.

    • cavefemme

      Hey Randy, I'm a lesbian- what's my evolutionary purpose? Couldn't my big butch girlfriend have stayed at home and helped all the cave mommies? We all know gay cavemen were hopeless at killing spiders and opening jars of mammoth sauce…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1662432506 Jonas Green

    Crawford's comment not only shows a gross insensitivity to the GLBT minority, it also shows an incredible ignorance of evolution, and how evolution works.

    Crawford should go back to Civics class and review High School Biology and the role of the Judiciary in protecting rights of citizens, and providing checks and balances.

    • RandyCrawford

      I see. We are all supposed to be the servants of the perverts, and not offend them by pointing out anything about reality. You don't have a clue about evolution and natural selection. Where did you get your biology degree? I got mine at Carleton College, which is where Paul Wellstone and several homosexual college presidents and deans were from. Plus homosexual faculty who had an idea of quality over lies such as those the Iowa City homosexual racket runs on. I've seen them face to face on both ends of the homo spectrum. And that biology department teaches the realities of Darwinian evolution by natural selection, which you might try to master sometime. My biology degree was cum laude. How about yours?

      This Iowa Supreme Court is a scam operation and they know it. That's why they had to invoke the hallucination for Varnum v. Brien of magical rights heretofore unimagined. That's a convenient pretext, but not a reason.

  • WesternIowan

    Steve King has been in office 8 years and has not accomplished a single thing for Iowans. He is just a hypocrite and an embarassment for Iowans. He cites Christian values but as a politician he routinely violates the commandment not to work on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2). It is pathetic. He just does extemist rallies to line his pocket with money from out-of-staters.

    • RandyCrawford

      Fortunately, most of the people in western Iowa are a lot more perceptive than you are. That's why they keep re-electing Steve King. You are right about one thing: he's willing to work overtime– especially to promote responsibility and accountability. I'm sorry these are foreign concepts to you, but if you apply yourself you might be able to learn.

      • http://afeatheradrift.wordpress.com/ Sherry Peyton

        Every state has its dead zone where the brain dead go. Steven King is ours. MN has Michele Bachmann, Oklahoma has Inhofe. Every state has one… Your hypothosis on cavemen is so dang funny except you actually believe that crap. It’s hard to tell with you types whether you are that idiotic or merely attempting to gain some advantage by playing to the truly mentally limited. Which is it? Are you out for gain or are you THAT stupid.?

        • Anonymous

          Yes, the homosexual interests do run on blind hatred, don’t they? Thank you for illustrating the point.

        • Anonymous

          Thousands of years ago, homosexuality was useful. So was murder, rape, stealing, and other behavior widely recognized as criminal. Homosexuality provided babysitters and caveguards to take care of the brood and the harem when the men were off hunting. Homosexuality reduced the rate of reproduction so that there was less danger of tribal starvation. Thus, the parts of the human species that had homosexuality in the early days of our species prospered better and transmitted their DNA better than those that lacked it– because human females and particularly children are comparatively delicate and need protection. At the same time, the tribes and individuals practicing murder and rape and stealing (especially toward neighboring tribes) prospered at the expense of their victims. So, the DNA of the aggressors tended to survive better than the DNA of the victims. In consequence, DNA conferring all the forementioned tendencies has been bequeathed to modern humans, and there is an unending struggle, once civilization came into the picture, to use the frontal cerebral lobes to overcome the baser animal instincts. Some modern humans have enough frontal lobe brain material to overcome murder, rape, homosexuality, and stealing. Some can’t control themselves. That’s why we have laws and jails.

  • Marconi1

    The stupidity of the cavemen wet-dream of his is so overwhelming that it almost masks his bigotry.

    What, homosexual cavemen were not good enough to be hunters but more than strong enough to be protecting their women-folk from other heterosexual men?

    Heck, these *are* the men we want serving in the military then.

    • RandyCrawford

      No, the issue is that when the men are out hunting for a few hours or days, you don't want a normal guy left behind to “guard” the harem. If you were on a hunting trip for a few days, would you want your 'best friend' left behind all alone with your wife? Or are you not normal enough to have a clue might happen?

      • http://alexjohnc3.myopenid.com/ Alex

        Your argument is that (male) homosexuals are no longer useful for their original “purpose.” If we assume that is true (which it's not), that doesn't mean homosexuals shouldn't be able to get married to one another. That's a non sequitur.

      • http://alexjohnc3.myopenid.com/ Alex

        Also, your wife and best friend must not like you very much if you think they'll have sex if you're gone for a few days shooting animals. How sad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1662432506 Jonas Green

    Sorry Mr King. If a Same-Gender Couple shares the definition of 'Nuclear Family' (mother, mother – Child or Father, Father – Child) then doesn't an adoptive couple also share that definition ?

    Are you against adoption by Straight Couples as well? Isn't that a threat to 'Tradition Marriage / Family' if you define it as limited to straight couple, blood relative only?

    So it follows you're for forced abortion in all cases where the mother can't raise the child?

    • RandyCrawford

      Same gender couples aren't nuclear families Your premise is false.

      • Privydigger

        Actually, your premise is flawed Randy. “Identity” (e.g., “mother,” “father”) is a highly variable and fluid construct that is shaped by social OR individual construction. My “father” has a vagina, and I'm okay with that. I'm at peace with it. Our family is no less “nuclear,” no less loving, no less in ANY way than yours. And “equal protection under the law” assures my “family” of the same rights and privileges as you. I assume you support our US Constitution, so please don't impose your rigid construct of what constitutes “marriage,” “mother,” or “father” on me and my family.

        • Lannonite

          Wouldn't a flexible definition of identity defeat the purpose of co-opting the term “nuclear family” (i.e., we're flexing it to the point of making it meaningless), or is the goal of co-opting these terms simply to eliminate their value altogether?

          Case in point, you mention Randy's “rigid construct” of familial terms. If those terms don't have a “rigid construct,” what value do they have?

          • Anonymous

            For consideration of the whole point of what I originally said, vocabulary games about ‘nuclear family’ or similar permutations of verbal deck chairs are merely red herrings promoted by the homosexual interests in an effort to make themselves (or their relatives) look somehow normal and acceptable. What counts for evolution is who made the sperm and who made the egg, regardless of any human language, vis-a-vis words like father and mother.

        • Anonymous

          Privydigger re “mother” and “father” — you are merely trying to throw out a lot of smoke and mirrors to create confusion with word games. It’s like the gambit of inventing or reinventing ‘gay’ and ‘homophobia’ and hoping that prostitution of the English language will help recruit suckers. Your father produced the sperm cell that gave you half of your DNA. Your mother produced the egg celll that gave you the other half of your DNA. It’s not your fault that one parent or both died, abandoned you, had a complicated divorce, or gave you up for adoption to keep you alive.

          It is through DNA inheritance that Darwinian evolution operates by natural selection. Adoptive parents, with or without cosmetic surgery, don’t determine your inheritance– only the environment of your life. If you had been parachuted into Japan as a baby and brought up Japanese, that’s what you would speak for instance, and perhaps know no English at all.

  • RandyCrawford

    Congratulations to Lynda Waddington for essentially writing correctly into her article above the interview information I had given her at the Greene Park rally. One point of order: if you look at the 10-27-2010 video from KCRG-TV {to wit: http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Opposing-Groups-Make-Stopopenses-in-Waterloo-Cedar-Rapids-for-Retention-Election-105912393.html} you will see KCRG downplayed the crowd numbers by cutting off their panorama shot at the guy in the red jacket whose elbow is at my right side as I hold the monkey sign.

    Half the crowd is not shown to my left or the viewer's right, so in other words there were actually about 40 “Vote No” people there for most of the rally. Perhaps the number had dropped to 20 by the time Lynda Waddington counted noses.

    A review of the KCRG video cited above also reveals the tactics of the homosexual agenda: their cover-up, censorship, and pushing and shoving activities are all visible on the tape. In addition, the guy who was shoving at me had spent the previous 15 minutes in a virtually non-stop high-volume verbal attack on speaker Steve King, trying to cut into his public presentation in a particularly uncivilized way so as to censor King by drowning out his words. The woman in the brown jacket is only barely recorded on the video for her related extensive harassment activities.

    We can see from the video, and better by being there, the homosexual agenda is all about infiltration in order to conduct censorship and use totalitarian tactics. Did this happen against the Vote Yes people in the Linn Co. Courthouse, who had a nice cozy place indoors on a cold blustery day? Or will Vote Yes for Retention now have to fabricate their own phony 'counterprotestors' purportedly against themselves to try to cast blame on alleged Vote No people who aren't?

    Such censorship and Machiavellian false appearances scams have been conducted at an even worse level in larger and subtle-sneaky-Iago types of ways in Iowa City for years. Hence the homosexual rule over Iowa City being known as a criminal racket by anyone who has spent a few thousand dollars investigating Iowa City's dirty secrets as to the University, city and county government, crooked police, crooked lawyers, and crooked judges.

    In the same vein, the Varnum v. Brien ruling by “Justices” largely emanating from Iowa City's only law school came as no great surprise to anyone familiar with how rigged and corrupt the homosexual slant is in Iowa City. After all, Judge Hanson in Polk County first did his work setting up the pretext for Varnum v. Brien by fabricating a special test case. Scams generally do need a pretext that cultivated munchkins are likely to follow.

    Talk about the Courts being politically impartial? What planet are the Vote Yes for Retention critics coming from? The current judicial selection committee is entirely Democrat except for one Republican and one Justice with a Republican background (see the Des Moines Register, 10-28-2010). The current Justices were nominated by Vilsack and Culver except the older ones nominated by Branstad.

    Branstad's public stance was to, for instance, sign Steve King's bill to protect normal marriage in the law, but Branstad had as his lieutenant governor Joy Corning. She was carefully not revealed to be a pro-homo agitator until she was safely out of office. So, in retrospect, the gullible can look back in time and say they should have figured out what Joy Corning and Terry Branstad were really up to all along.

    We will see Branstad, undoubtedly our next governor, proclaim his devotion to 'traditional family values' and stopping the creeping homosexual degeneration of society. And we will also see tons of excuses as to why he, for some pretext or another, just won't be able to do anything about what he'd 'like to do' if only circumstances were different. Anybody recognize when Branstand is spinning them? The peasants have been anesthetized for a long while.

    Clue: his son Eric is a normal guy behaviorally speaking, with a nice wife and kids. But Eric has, around Iowa City, actively and sneakily run interference for the Johnson Co. homosexual rackets, as I found out by direct observation after I set Eric up with a little test. The Branstads, I would speculate, have fallen for the line that the homosexuals 'want civil rights, like everyone else' and they don't understand, via not having lived for years inside a homosexual racket like Iowa City's, how perverted and corrupt and murderous and degenerate things get to be when maladjusted homosexuals, behaving like Iago in Shakespeare's Othello, scheme and con and lie to the point of ruling the roost.

    Ruth Harkin raises the bogeyman of all the judges being fired because she knows there is actually no campaign on the issue, and the issue has merely been a matter of offhand last-minute comments at the cited level of wishing. No way is it going to happen, so it's a commie-under-every-bed scare tactic to excite suckers into opposing Vote No on Retention over nothing past Harkin's fumes. The only prospect of chaos is her attempt to scramble the thinking process among the gullible. Not to mention Ruth Harkin has a direct vested interest in keeping her sister the magistrate on the public payroll, or that she is a Regent because another family member, Tom somebody or another, can pull lots of strings for her.

    Ruth Harkin SAYS (but what does she do?) she doesn't like special interest money influencing Iowa's government. Does she complain about Tim Gill, the Colorado homosexual and multimillionaire, pouring his vast treasure into Iowa legislative races to buy his fellow-believers their spots in the Statehouse? How does she think 6 guys and 1 gal with pro-homosexual biases get installed surreptitiously on the supremely stacked shyster court?

    Payola buys the seats at the Statehouse, and the resulting legislators arrange for the court installations by laundering things through the 'impartial' (yeah, right– to quote former Justice Hansen) committee. Just like Congress avoids responsiblity for economic stupidity by fabricating the Federal Reserve as another Blue Ribbon Committee of Fraudulent Experts to take the heat. And, as a sincere opponent of out-of-state money influencing Iowa politics, how soon do you think it will be before Ruth Harkin criticizes Senator Tom what's-his-name for financing his political endeavors with 17% Iowa money? That's 83% of his dollars coming from out-of-state, for those of you with the intellect that is required to support Varnum v. Brien. We wouldn't want Ruth Harkin to be known for being a dishonest, devious, and insincere hypocrite would we?

    McCartan is speciously hallucinating, since the freedom the Supreme Court wants is freedom for itself to make decisions for the citizens and cram down our throats their own whims no matter how ludicrous they may be. That's why they stooped to fabricate the pretext in Varnum v. Brien that they have some divine right to invoke rights previously never imagined. Now we know: imagine whatever you want, pretend it's part of the Constitution, and you can try to make fly any contrivance at will. If ordinary citizens subscribe to this notion and start following it, this novel concept will lead to some mighty interesting places. How soon before we all take the plunge into the abyss, with the Iowa Supreme Court heroically leading the way?

    • PaulTheGayGuy

      Where can I get myself one of these homo-cave-men? Preferably a big hairy bear type! Grrrrr!

      • Privydigger

        Paul, the caveman thing reminded me of an early vignette in Freud's 1920s classic “Civilization and Its Discontents” regarding the advantages of male anatomy relative to putting out fire (on page 28 or thereabouts) and the concomitant effect this had on the formation of gender roles and cave-bound women as protectors of the fire. Holy smokes! Grrrrr!

        • truthful_patriot

          Privydigger,

          Freud was correct. In the 1930s there was the great depression. No one had a home and no one had water, and further, everything was dry from the dust bowl. Therefore, urine was the most appropriate means to prevent forest fires cause you couldn't use precious water, and everyone lived in tents, too, because of the depression. Women couldn't get too close to the fire because their long hair might catch on fire and burn the baby. Further, because it was the great depression, women had no money to visit the barber, so women had long hair everywhere. However, we have evolved past all this now, and Freud is thus obsolete – but gays are not (see my post above).

    • http://twitter.com/tysondanner Tyson Danner

      Randy,

      What do you say to the fact that most Iowans support the Court’s decision? Do you think Iowans should make their own decisions about their state laws? Or should carpetbaggers fueled by out-of-state interests be the ones who decide?

      • Anonymous

        If most Iowans support the Court’s decision, why is the Linn Co. Courthouse being used as a partisan lobbying forum for one side only, viz. Vote Yes on Retention? It’s supposed to be a neutral forum for taxpayer supported business of the government, not slanting the government. The ballot decisions are supposed to be made by the ballot, not people in governmental facilities telling us how to maintain them in power. The blatant utilization of the judges’ house to maintain judicial officers clearly reveals the lie of the courts purportedly being neutral, unbiased, and non-political in their conduct. Their demonstrated goal is herding the public– not serving the public. The more they twist and turn, the more they reveal their hypocrisy for what it is, just like Varnum v. Brien is itself an elaborate but transparent attempt to stampede the citizens in a judicially biased and highly rigged direction. Many fall for it, but those of us who are experienced in dealing with homosexual duplicity have an easier time seeing how the manipulations work.

        If most Iowans support the Court’s decision, why is Ternus & Co. running scared, giving speeches wherever possible whenever possible, in support of her own personal self-serving partisan interests? Does Vote No on retention get to speak to the same crowds? Again, this is government trying to babysit the voters and tell them what is good for them, rather than the voters telling government what kind of government they want. If I were to give the kind of talks Ternus is giving on election day at the polling places, I would be arrested for politicking. Everybody knows Ternus & Co.is politicking as actively as possible, and hypocritically pretending otherwise. In case it isn’t already obvious, she wasn’t committing tons of time to speaking about ballot issues until Bob van der Plaats started up the Vote No campaign. Get real, OK? That’s how fair and impartial and non-political the Justices’ lobbying campaign is. If it still isn’t obvious, just look at them bringing in Sandra Day O’Connor to tell Iowa voters what is good for them.

        If Iowans shouldn’t make their own decisions about our state laws, whom would you prefer to bring in as Grand Babysitter? Are you willing to criticize Tim Gill of Colorado for spending thousands of homosexual interest dollars in Iowa to buy seats for his friends in the Statehouse? Are you willing to criticize Gronstal for turning around and blackmailing Democrat Party legislators into doing his bidding, or else Gill’s money will be used to fund Democrat opponents to Democrat officeholders in the next primary? If you don’t like out of state money, are you willing to have a little talk with Tom Harkin, whose wife was lobbying for Vote Yes in the Linn Co. ‘neutral’ Courthouse Oct. 27, 2010? Are you willing to talk Tom Harkin into foregoing the 83% of his campaign budget that comes from out of state, and instead rely on the mere 17% he gets from Iowa? Or would it be too much to ask you to observe your own professed standards?

        The real problem is actually in large part a matter of extensive media bias over many years. And a lot of their money comes from out of state. You’ve heard of advertising being a large part of any TV station’s or any newspaper’s budget, haven’t you? For example, if you look at the tape:
        http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Opposing-Groups-Make-Stops-in-Waterloo-Cedar-Rapids-for-Retention-Election-105912393.html#IDComment106637474
        you will see highly biased reporting by KCRG, which is financed locally more than most. First of all, the day was scheduled by Vote No and its bus tour for a Vote No rally. So, Vote Yes promptly recruited partisan allies at the “unbiased” courthouse and more partisan allies in the media to help with their opposition, including sabotage, efforts. You can see from the KCRG coverage of the cold and blustery outdoor event that our Vote No coverage was sandwiched between an interloping Vote Yes gal censoring the bus message with her sign at the lead, and a homosexual telling us how wonderful his fake marriage was at the close. Immediately the rest of the story gave unopposed and unrebutted coverage of Vote Yes ensconced all comfy and cozy in the welcoming arms of the Linn Co. “neutral” courthouse. Did Vote No get any rebuttal time for OUR side of the story? No way. Not from Vote Yes’s buddies at KCRG.

        That particular tape also included bias in the form of what they didn’t show. The big guy who was shoving me with his shoulder had spent approximately the previous 15 minutes deliberately and loudly interfering with Steve King’s speech. This evidence of totalitarian tactics for harassment and interference with Constitutional First Amendment rights, which was actually a major part of the story, was conveniently censored out by KCRG. This shows KCRG doesn’t want the public to realize how dangerous and dictatorial the tactics and ambitions of their allies in the homosexual lobby actually are.

        I have seen even more blatant media censorship and favoritism out of the Daily Iowan, Iowa City Press-Citizen, Des Moines Register, and ABC-TV in Washington D.C. Given the extensive media bias, and political bias, and out of state dollars the homosexuals have brought to bear for years on Iowa politics, and given even they admit they targeted the Iowa Supreme Court as ripe for the plucking should they present a conveniently manufactured test case (which Judge Hanson provided out of Polk Co.), it is in comparison small potatoes for the American Family Association out of Tupelo, Mississippi, or the Family Research Council out of Washington D.C. to be spending a few hundred thousand dollars the past few months on Vote No. Meanwhile, the Iowa universities and community colleges are heavily financed and biased with hijacked state and federal dollars, courtesy of homosexual racketeering, to be pro-homosexual, and providing balance in Iowa education would be a matter of hundreds of millions of dollars. So, it is a false argument to try to criticize Vote No on Retention for bringing a few dollars in from out of state when Vote Yes has spent many years bringing in or hijacking much greater amounts.

    • http://afeatheradrift.wordpress.com/ Sherry Peyton

      Mr. Crawford, your understanding of evolution is only slightly higher than your appalling lack of understanding of the constitution and the purpose of the high court. Take your sick hatred and pal up with the other sicko steven king and find an island somewhere where you can hate people to your hearts content. You disgust decent people.

      • Anonymous

        My understandings are factually based and “higher,” if you want to use that terminology, than yours. I am speaking from experience, not hatred. Homos disgust decent people, especially as more and more of their activities is seen. That’s why KCRG, for instance, doesn’t want you to see what the guy who was shoving me has to say, because it would reveal him for the jerk qualities that I was objecting to in him and his allies.
        KCRG’s censored video is at —– http://iowaindependent.com/46337/anti-judge-bus-tour-dwarfed-by-pro-retention-rally#comment-91479548 —— and a little revealing of what he was up to is at —-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUO5-7pkyUI&feature=player_embedded—- The problem is that homosexual agenda types want you to be treated like the blind man and the elephant, and not get the whole story. That’s why I mentioned on youtube they are practitioners of ignorance is bliss. As long as they keep you ignorant, you will be blissful, happy, or gay about your ignorance– whichever part of the dictionary you prefer. It’s all about manipulating suckers, but that doesn’t mean you have to be one of them.

  • truthful_patriot

    I have to agree with most of what Mr. Crawford claims about gays and evolution. However, gays are not evolutionary obsolete. We have evolved through natural selection to appreciate and psychologically savor high culture. Therefore, there is selective pressure on the human species to retain the role homosexuals fill. If we lose our gays, we lose part of our needed culture. This includes the following, for example: musicals, fashion and style, parades, and the theater arts, etc.

    • Anonymous

      Homosexuals and culture: Until and unless you can demonstrate a cause and effect relationship between homosexuality and culture, you have not substantiated your thesis. Nor do you offer an independent and unbiased method for measuring what is high culture, or how to reliably, e.g. with numbers, differentiate it from medium, lukewarm, and low culture.

      Sitting around the caves, ready to protect the women and children, prehistoric homosexuals may likely have learned to while away their hours on cave paintings and pan flutes, but artistic endeavors don’t contribute to natural selection and Darwinian evolution because the practitioners did not, out of homosexuality, transmit the genes for those traits to the next generation.

      The early Homo sapiens who put on an act and pretended to be homosexual back at the cave, or were partly homo(sexual) at whatever end of the bisexual spectrum, had it easy for survival compared to the guys who went out hunting and warring all the time. The Homos who put on convincing performances of being homo, then fiddled with the harem when the husbands were away, did transmit genes to subsequent generations on the sly. That’s why, after thousands of years of the practice during the evolution of Homo sapiens, there is such a high correlation between homosexuality and the penchant for deception.

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/U7PHQERPCCS5KMEXW3NNPEFISQ David in Houston

        “…there is such a high correlation between homosexuality and the penchant for deception.”

        Gee… who is forcing gay people to pretend to be straight? Does DADT ring a bell? Our government is sanctioning deception… and by not allowing gay people to marry each other, you are coercing gay people (through societal pressure) to marry straight people. Do you honestly want that to keep happening?

        Straight people, like yourself, are demanding (through laws or violence) that gay people stay in the closet and live their entire lives pretending to be straight… just to pacify your (extreme) homophobia. That’s not going to continue, regardless of your moral and religious objections.

      • Anonymous

        I completely disagree.

        For the following reasons, the flaming gay cavemen of our ancestors did NOT have it easier by sitting around the cave and defending the weak:

        1) being around catty, sniping women all day who lack access to a real man to temper their emotions through sexual satisfaction is NOT an easy task. unfulfilled, lustful women are very difficult to be around

        2) gay cavemen would much rather be out with the boys, engaged in direct feats of physical conquest – using their sinuous muscle to test their strengths against those found in nature. They would much rather be surrounded by athletic young men in sweaty, musky loincloths than women complaining about how their man can only clothe them in heyenna skin, rather than warmer, more luxurious bearskin.

        Doubtful that gay cavemen had it easy

  • truthful_patriot

    I want the readers to be aware, too, that in the 1st picture, that is a chimp. Chimps are not monkeys.

    Whoever is holding that sign ought to be embarrassed. No doubt they are the product of our failing, liberal public “schools”.

    • RegularJoe

      The monkey holding the chimp picture is Randy. You gotta hear this guy speak to really appreciate just how batshit crazy he truly is.
      Randy, were you in the military or did you acquire the camo pants elsewhere?

      • truthful_patriot

        He can't be that crazy at all. He's correct about Iowa City. I've been to Iowa City and it is a gay mecca. In fact, the gay racket there is so strong and powerful that to divert unwanted media attention away from their licentious poetry workshops down by the river, the gay mafia (cause that's what it is) is obviously behind all the football team's sexual assaults on the nubile, doe-eyed coeds. Iowa City is a despicable Sodom and Gomorrah.

        • Anonymous

          Truthful Patriot nonsense aside about the Iowa City homo racket organizing rapes, it is true that in the Sodom and Gomorrah of Iowa City there are rape problems from time to time from the football players and others. I have checked out the Rape Victim Advocacy Program and the Iowa City Police as to their rape prevention programs, and essentially they have no programs at all.

          Rape Victim Advocacy Program (if you talk to them in person) basically wants girls to be raped so that old victims and new victims will all have more mutual shoulders to cry on in the sisterhood of victims. It’s the old story of misery wants company. The Iowa City Police want more rapes to happen, and do zippo about actual rape prevention just like RVAP, because the IC Police get more budget for payroll, overtime, cars, and equipment in proportion to crime rates going up.

          Don’t believe me? Look at the fluff brochures RVAP and IC Police occasionally put out. Then investigate what they actually DO to prevent rape, or even advise the college and high school girls how to avoid being raped. Zippo. In case they try to throw a sudden program together in response to this posting, check them out again in another 6 months, 11 months, 17 months, 2 years, 6 years, etc. If you look, you’ll see their actions don’t match up with their professed public policy.

          The same is true about U of I campus security. I brought a coed security problem to their attention [won't mention what it is since they refused to do squat about it], and they refused to do anything at all. Girls, what you get for your tax dollars in Iowa City and on campus is:
          “It’s your problem. Call us if you get raped.” None of these organizations want to do anything except generate work for themselves by letting the rape problems happen. The foregoing apathy also benefits Planned Parenthood and the Emma Goldman Clinic. Extra rapes mean more business in their front doors.

          • Anonymous

            Randy,

            Why do you think the IC Police and various advocacy groups are soooo wonderfully deceptive? Why do you think they are able to so adroitly mask their true intent behind a veneer of showmanship?

            It’s because the gay mafia in Iowa City has reached out with its long, wily, powerful appendages and penetrated every facet of society, injecting it with their deluge of moral filth.

          • Anonymous

            Gay mafia? Where do I sign up?

          • Anonymous

            averagemainer:

            you don’t need to sign up. They are everywhere in Iowa City! In the bustops, in the bistros, in the churches, in the schools, in the steamy public showers with the fogged mirrors, etc. They are waiting to accost you, and if you don’t have a .357 in your pocket and your back to the wall – you’re a goner. It’s disgusting. Let your guard down and you’re in, simple as that.

      • Anonymous

        To see how batshit crazy I am, see and hear an uncensored tape. I haven’t found any posted yet, because the homos who want to do your thinking for you don’t want you to know the whole story, e.g. what was the homo infiltrator doing and saying before I criticized him. Got a clue? Until you do, your criticism is just an expression of your ignorance. As to my pants, yes and yes. You’re not the kind of boy who would be interested in another boy’s pants, are you? Was it you who went rushing off to Wal-Mart yesterday as soon as you read little boy’s pants were half off?

        • Anonymous

          Randy, you are a veteran? If so, I’d suggest you check with the VA Hospital….they have great mental health services for veterans. You may be able to get your meds balanced and receive treatment for your paranoid delusional issues.

    • Anonymous

      As to technical zoological taxonomy, chimps are indeed not monkeys. In vernacular usage however, chimps are widely referred to as monkeys.

  • http://twitter.com/tysondanner Tyson Danner

    But Randy, you’re being too short-sighted. We still clearly need “the Gays”, evolutionarily speaking. Who else will style the ladies’ hair so they can attract a biologically successful male? Who else will decorate our homes so we can outpace our neighbors? Who, I ask you. Who?!

    • Anonymous

      Nobody needs their homosexual behavior, since it’s societally useless. That’s why they are being so selfish with their harping and whining. Homosexuality was useful in the cave man era, but most of us have progressed out of that phase of development. I don’t know about you pal, but a good looking woman is good looking regardless of whether or not some pansy was arranging her tresses earlier today. You might or might not understand the concept. Why would a normal guy be fussy about his interior decorating? If hair and wallpaper issues are the best you can come up with, and if you can’t answer the questions I put to you earlier, I will take your comment alleging short-sightedness etc. as your admission you don’t have much of substance to say. But at least you’re not being overtly injurious with a ton of lies as I have seen so often from the pro-homosexual propagandists. If the truth fazes you, at least you have comedy as a refuge.

      • Anonymous

        Randy, do you know the definition of “sarcasm?”

        • Anonymous

          You can easily find that or any other definition at places like dictionary.com. Sarcasm is useful for showing lies and hypocrisies and false assumptions for what they are.

          • Anonymous

            Believe me, I wasn’t asking for the definition — I was wondering if you’d ever even heard of it before. You fell right into Tyson Danner’s trap by not knowing it was sarcasm.

          • Anonymous

            Not hardly did I fall into his “trap” of obvious sarcasm. What you are clearly not picking up on is that I responded to it and alluded to it. Not with the word sarcasm, but in a way that evidently is too subtle for you to figure out. If you ever develop any linguistic ability, perhaps you can figure out the obvious by re-reading what I wrote several times. If you still find yourself at a continuing intellectual loss, let me know and perhaps I can devote some time to babysitting your self-illustrated ignorance of the nuances of the English language. You do know the definition of “allude,” don’t you?

      • Anonymous

        Sorry but no, homosexuality is hardly societally useless. It reduces over-rampant hetero breeding that overpopulates a world that CANNOT sustain so many humans, and provides nurturing parental options for all the abandoned children that irresponsible self-absorbed hetero people give up because they had no interest in being parents but couldn’t be assed to use condoms. What, however, truly DOES have absolutely no constructive value to society id hatred, bigotry, homophobia and lying in the name of God. Because these things cause only harm, leading to people being beaten, crippled nd murdered, or young people driven to suicide, because they’re different, and for no other reason BUT that.

        Imagine Randy, that you have a teenage son, and that son is gay. He of course hasn’t told you so because every day he hears your hurtful abusive dishonest anti-gay preaching and he internalizes it. Your son is miserable and unhappy, not because he’s gay, but because you make him feel like there’s something wrong with him. You make him feel like he’s sick somehow, so he does all he can to bury it, hoping it will go away. He dates girls carelessly, f**king girls at random trying to man himself up, to chase the gay away, but with every girl he beds, inside he dies a little, because deep down it’s still his football buddies that he thinks about. But you just keep preaching that gays are sick and unnatural, and your son hates himself even more. And then one day at school, someone spots him looking at a boy for just a few seconds too long, and the rumours start. And because idiots like you keep teaching kids that gay people are diseased and sick, kids at school, with no proof your son IS gay, but based solely on those new rumours, start taunting him, ostracising him, even beating him up after school calling him faggot. And after that harassment and abuse at school he still has to come home to your garbage, reinforcing his feelings of self-loathing, cementing in his mind that he’s a worthless deviant. And no matter how hard he tries to be straight, the gay feelings never go away.

        And one day you come home from work and you find your son, dead on your kitchen floor after cutting his wrists open, because he felt so sick and worthless and abused that he finally decided being dead was better than living, that suicide was his best option.

        All because of the kind of ignorant hate you and those like you spread.

        Don’t deflect the question by insisting you’d never have a gay son, or by claiming that it’s only gay activists convincing him he’s fine as is that would cause him so much turmoil. We both know that’s a cop-out, an excuse bigots use to avoid admitting to the harm they cause.

        Just go look in the mirror and ask yourself honestly.

        If you had a son and that son killed himself directly because the kind of hate you preach made him feel like death was his best option….. could you really live with that?

        • Anonymous

          Of course I wouldn’t want a homosexual son (or anyone else, like Tchaikovsky or Clementi, for instance) to go kill themselves for feeling bad or being harassed, {or being harassed in the first place whether it made them suicidal or not}. The issue is: I myself have been harassed by a homosexual racket in Iowa City, and they were trying to con me into killing myself, on top of trying to slander me as a psycho, con my wife into thinking I was cheating on her (total lie), trying to feed me AIDS-exposed sluts and whores, sabotage my property, and a litany of similar stuff you probably don’t want to hear. The chief lesbian at the medical school who was running this scam had a daughter with a miserable home life, due to the lesbian mom’s lousy parenting skills and hypocritical manipulations. So, I don’t buy the whiny stories about how the poor little homosexuals are so dumped on by the big bad heteros. It cuts both ways, and in my personal experience I’ve never seen homos anywhere (in or out of Iowa City) harassed and framed as badly as the other way around. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’m saying the RATE is low enough to not compare with homo harassment in Iowa City, which includes leading to the deaths of Eric Shaw, the Lu Gang murders, and the Steve Sueppel bludgeonings of his family (and his flaming suicide). Regardless of who is being driven (actually fully, or only by ‘unsuccessful’ attempts) to desperation or suicide, nobody should be mean to anybody. A whole separate issue (which can have coincidental overlaps– don’t confuse correlations or associations with being identical) is homosexual marriage. It is meaningless. Evolution figured out about a billion years ago that sperms don’t combine with sperms and eggs don’t combine with eggs. Marriage is merely the macroscopic multicellular form of what individual tiny single-celled gametes do. If you are homo and want to live with another homo or a thousand other homos, that’s up to you. Am I stopping you? But don’t call it marriage, and don’t expect me to subsidize it. It’s evolutionarily obsolete and is a leftover from the old cave man days. Yes, there are many irresponsible heteros who abandon, beat, or murder their kids. They are totally wrong all on their own, and their being wrong doesn’t ennoble someone else.

    • Anonymous

      Randy is completely correct.

      It is ludicrous to think that a gay homo erectus had the ability to track down docile herbivore prey in the scorching afternoon savanna heat. A gay homo erectus could not hunt with a pack of tan, sweaty, taught, spry young cavemen. Do you really think a gay caveman could repeatedly thrust a long, hard, sharp spear deep into the muscular, toned flanks of some exhausted, non-aggressive antelope? That’s ridiculous. A gay caveman could not hunt herbivores, but no doubt he could vigorously fight off a saber-tooth cat.

      Since saber-tooth cats are extinct, we don’t need gays.

      Get a clue, Tyson. You’re ignorant.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/U7PHQERPCCS5KMEXW3NNPEFISQ David in Houston

    Mr. King truly is the KING of slippery slope arguments. He actually believes that 5% of the population is going to bring the downfall of our entire society IF we let those people get married. The illogic and stupidity of that statement is absolutely mind-boggling. How does letting gay couples marry prevent straight couples from getting married… make babies… and have a family? How can one possibly effect the other? It can't.

    Have straight people in Iowa suddenly become gay, simply because gays can now marry? Of course not. It's a stupid theory… except to Mr. King.

    How does he feel about the 20 million children being raised in single-parent households across the country? Aren't they destroying the fabric of society by not having a two-parent family? Don't those kids need a mom AND a dad? Where is Mr. King's outrage about that? Let's add in the 50% heterosexual divorce rate, THEN tell me what's a bigger threat to our society… single-parent families, divorce, or gay couples getting married? Unless you're homophobic and are incapable of using the smallest amount of common sense, the answer is VERY obvious.

    • Anonymous

      The homosexual racket is only showing you a little part of the picture. If you are like the blind man and the elephants, you of course won’t be able to see the larger picture.

      First, your attempt to speak for Steve King is your attempt to insert inaccuracies into what he has to say. That’s why more people need to see and hear Steve King directly rather than having him filtered through biased media or internet commentators who want to try to spin what he says off into some imaginary zone and then censor the rest of his message.

      Secondly, the ulterior motive of homo marriage is to get the next generation, which has almost entirely not been raised by homos (and which is 100% not the result of homosexual behavior) forced into spousal benefit tax slavery so as to support the homosexuals in retirement and today. The homosexual manipulators also want their normal contemporaries to support them via spousal benefit tax slavery. Further, he same selfish goal applies to private employment employee spousal benefits, which drives up the cost of doing business and forces everyone to help support homo-partners even though most have nothing to do with creating or raising the next generation.

      Why should I pay more taxes, or pay more for goods and services, because somebody can’t control themselves and wants to have pointless non-productive sex with another member of the same sex? Homosexuality produces extra domestic abuse claims, extra medical claims, and elevated rates of syphilis, AIDS, and fluoroquinolone-resistant gonorrhea at 45 times the normal heterosexual rate. For that matter, why should I support some adulterer who has five phony wives because he can’t keep it in his pants very often? If you insist on driving drunk, smoking, parachuting, scuba diving, etc. etc. you will pay more for your insurance because you engage in risky behavior. If homosexuals want to engage in risky behavior, there is absolutely no reason why normal people should be forced to subsidize those perverted risks.

      The allotment of civilization is one partner of the opposite sex, because that bears the greatest probability of generating the next generation, and it is the next generation which is the ultimate intended beneficiary of government and private spousal benefit subsidy programs. There is no reason why my children should be condemned to pay for someone’s selfish deviant, selfish non-productive, and selfish disease-ridden lack of self control either when the homo spouse is working age or retired. As usual, the homosexuals don’t want you to notice where they are headed with these actual ultimate goals. They just want to hoodwink you one stepping stone at a time as they carry gullible voters down the primrose path to being fleeced. Maintaining ignorance of their true agenda is why the homosexuals get so excited about censoring the truth.

      Meanwhile, the homosexual manipulators like to play word games. First they corrupted the word “gay” to mean perverted rather than happy, but everyone doesn’t have to fall for that rigamarole. Another verbal con slipped in by David in Houston is “homophobia,” when actually they should be using the word “homodisgustia” as that is the regard normal informed people have for being disgusted by perversion and its lying con games.

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/U7PHQERPCCS5KMEXW3NNPEFISQ David in Houston

        You might want to check out other resources besides NARTH, Focus on the Family, etc. Meds should take care of the rest.

        From what I gather from your crazy diatribe is that gay people want to get married so our government will pay them and their spouse social security benefits when they get older? Considering that gay people pay into the social security system (and pay their taxes) just like straight people, they have every right to get equal compensation. End of story.

        Meanwhile, the heterosexual manipulators are forcing gay citizens to pay for their children’s public school system and playgrounds. We really should be using the word “heterodisgustia” regarding their stealing money from gay citizens against their will. How these straight heathens can be so selfish is just another one of their lying con games.

        Based on your preposterously flawed logic, any straight marriage (or single person) that doesn’t produce offspring is completely worthless to society. What a warped and sad view of humanity you have. I suppose when your kids turn 18, you’ll save our government money by ending your life. Your job to procreate and raise your children is officially over, so now you’re just wasting our planet’s resources, right?

        • Anonymous

          I have never heard of NARTH nor have any interest in whatever it is, and I don’t run on Focus on the Family, nor do I use the medications with which you have such an understandable familiarity. (addendum– I just looked up NARTH on Google and will research them later). You exhibit a classic lack of understanding about Social Security. In 1936, FDR was scared out of his socks that Socialist candidate Norman Thomas would bleed away votes via Thomas’s Social Security proposal, thus throwing the election to Republican Alf Landon in the depths of the “Great” Depression. So, FDR stole Thomas’s proposal to save his own neck, not out of any altruistic desire to found a great charitable institution for Joe American, and not because FDR had a clue how to actually pay for it. [[Analogy: Lyndon Johnson went into Vietnam strictly for his selfish personal ambition. Despite all his noble and altruistic 'bright shining lies' we now know from White House tapes that LBJ was absolutely sure from the beginning of his presidency he has zero chance of winning in Vietnam. LBJ sent 58,000+ young Americans to their deaths, and a couple millions Vietnamese also, strictly because he 'didn't want to be the first U.S. president to lose a war," i.e. LBJ's concern was 100% re his image in history-- which he hardly burnished with his selfish and murderous tactics.]] When Ralph Nader spoke at the U of I Memorial Union in 2000, he gleefully recounted asking Norman Thomas in New York about 1958, “What was your proudest political achievement?” To which Thomas replied regarding his own earlier glee, “I got the Democrats to steal my platform.” The original true purpose of Social Security, i.e. to milk votes from millions of the gullible who would grasp at any straw in the middle of the Depression, was (as peddled to those gullible voters): Social Security will put payroll deductions into inviolable individual retirement trust accounts permanently for each worker, under each worker’s individual government bank account number. These monies will never, never, never be touched. They only will be added to with more government contributions and interest. Only when the workers retires will the funds be disbursed. And, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER will the Social Security number be used for anything other than exclusively the government Social Security retirement bank account. It will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER be used for any type of national ID system. Guess what? Not only was the “exclusivity” of the Social Security number a total lie, but also from the beginning the contributions of 1930′s workers were used to pay 1930′s retirees. The next year’s contributions (FICA taxes) paid ALSO toward the next year’s retirees, etc. etc. And it was never enough to pay for itself, so magic money was appropriated from elsewhere as needed to keep the mirage afloat lo these many years. The Social Security sacrosanct funds have been looted so severely so many times over the years that Obama’s bipartisan (Erskine Bowles, Alan Simpson, et alii) commission is having to admit the charade can’t be kept up any longer, although they aren’t willing to call the historic fraud the fraud that it has actually been. The original idea for Social Security came from Germany, where it was first started in 1884. Even though they lost two World Wars, the Germans never looted their Social Security funds the way the Americans have. That’s why if a guy works in Germany for 30 years, and in American for 30 years, he gets twice as much from his German Social Security as he gets from the U.S. Social Security. Not only that, but the U.S. bureaucrats say: “Oh, you’re getting all that extra income from Germany, so we will cut your monthly U.S. Social Security payments in half. And, since your wife is your dependent, her U.S. Social Security payments will be cut in half also.” Bottom line is that people have never been getting their own money back– it’s always been the next generation that is paying for today’s retirees. And homosexuality, being a Darwinian dead end now that most of us are out of the Stone Age, doesn’t contribute to the next generation. End of your pathetic phony story. Social Security has always been riding on someone else’s children, none of whom are made by homosexual processes. Meanwhile, everyone is indeed being forced to pay for the public school system and playgrounds. Since public education is being manipulated extensively as a propaganda tool of the homosexual agenda, you’re right– it’s time to shut it down and let people spend their money teaching their children to be normal and not puppets of homosexual atavisms that have been obsolete for 10,000 years, and which today do nothing useful for society, while pointlessly and selfishly promoting AIDS, syphilis, and antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea. Based on reality (study Darwin sometime, as you seem to be clueless regarding how evolution works) an organism’s chief significance is in the DNA transmitted to the next generation. The organisms that don’t reproduce tend to go extinct. In the Stone Age, homosexuality was important for protecting this evolutionary asset of the tribe while the men were off hunting. As this seldom happens today, homosexuality has evolved to become a pointless dead end that is significant primarily in its tendency to spread vile diseases at 45 times the background rate, per recent CDC statistics. If you are such a fan of homosexuality, consider the bonobo chimpanzees. They tried a different evolutionary tactic compared with our species– bonobos have spread homosexuality to most every bonobo. Clue: look where it got them. Still interested in practicing homosexuality? You’re free to run naked like a bonobo, jump into the jungle, and join in their homo orgies all you want. What a warped and sad view of humanity you have that you would want to head humans in the direction the bonobos have already headed. And, you betray the classic homosexual proclivity for promoting suicide, which I’ve seen out of University administration perverts at the University of Iowa as described elsewhere in this thread. Your lobbying for suicide also echoes Shakespeare’s treatment of Iago in Othello, as I told journalists in my original interview. The more you expose your sick ways of thinking, the more you reveal once again that the homosexual agenda is all about decay, degeneracy, disease, and death. At least you have opened your sick way of thinking to public view more than you likely originally intended.

      • Anonymous

        Mr. Crawford, it seems that your primary reason for being against allowing homosexuals to marry is the fact that they can’t reproduce and have offspring in the same manner as ‘normal’ couples. In that case I would like to ask your thoughts some questions I have.

        My first question is that in the case you are using the ability to produce offspring as the main reason for determining who will have the right to marry then where would ‘normal’ couples with one or both parties being infertile fall? And before you dismiss my argument as another attempt at being obnoxious, actually think about this for a moment. These couples are also presenting the same drain on services as gay couples, they are going to force your children to support them because they lack their own children to offset the cost of their support. Should they not also be excluded from the benefits of ‘normal’ marriage? Should they only be allowed to access those benefits if they use medical intervention to produce offspring? What if the offspring doesn’t carry the genetic material of both parents, because the use of a donor was required? Can both members of the couple equally claim to have had a hand in the conception of the produced offspring, or would they still be excluded from marriage benefits because they can’t produce genetic offspring together as a couple?

        How would you treat a couple who wish to get married, but the female has already been through menopause? Would they be eligible to receive the benefits of marriage? Or would they be excluded from them because they can’t, even with medical intervention produce genetic offspring?

        You can dismiss these questions as not worth answering should you decide, but I would like to point out that both of these hypothetical couples would represent the same drain on society that you accuse gay and lesbian couples of representing.

        Also, if you allow these hypothetical couples access to the benefits of marriage than you can’t claim that the ability to produce offspring is the most important factor in determining who should receive the benefits of marriage. Because gay and lesbian couples can reproduce and raise a child with half the genetic material from one of the partners using the same medical intervention services that allow your ‘normal’ couples with issues conceiving to produce offspring.

        As to your argument about the allotment of one to one partnerships offering the best chance for the creation of the next generation, that is not shown to be the case in the vast majority of mammals. In most mammal communities one to one relationships are not the best way of insuring the next generation of offspring… There is a reason that male primates will kill the young of female primates that they want to mate with, because they want to insure the next generation of offspring are sired by the strongest and most viable of the males… and he doesn’t hit his new girlfriend over the head drag her off and then never look at another female, no he will mate with any available female who might be able to pass on his genetic material…

        Humans would benefit from this arrangement also if you think about it, the more partners a female has while she is fertile the higher her changes of producing offspring are. It almost seems like this one to one relationship is actually lowering the chances of a large enough number of offspring being produced to provide for the generations they will need to provide for as their elders age.

        Just a couple of amusing things to think about.

        • Anonymous

          First of all, you are trying to insert a red herring to avoid the initial topic, which is: Homosexuality was useful in the Stone Age for enhancing survival (as was also true with murder, rape, and stealing). BUT homosexuality is now obsolete due to the emergence of agriculture, technology, and civilization. Homosexuality today does nothing for society, and against society it spreads lies, manipulations, and crimes analogous to what Iago did in Shakespeare’s Othello. Homosexuality also proliferates AIDS and syphilis at 45 times the rate done by the sexually normal part of the population. To give you some time along the side of the way, and to pretend to take your bait here about the side issue distractions you have inserted above: Your initial question here puts inaccurate spin onto what you yourself are trying to say and what you are trying to characterize my points as being. First of all, homosexuals (like anyone) are already allowed to marry. Like me or anyone, they can’t marry a sister, brother, father, mother, son, or daughter because that would be incest. Homosexuality is incest in the extreme, because evolution decided about a billion years ago that sperms can’t fuse with sperms and eggs can’t fuse with eggs. Marriage is simply the macroscopic multicellular version of unicellular syngamy (i.e. gamete fusion), and it evolved societally around the world independently of religion long before any human knew what a cell or microscope was. In effect, human marriage and sperm+egg marriage are evolutions that are parallel and convergent, but happening in different time frames since single-cell fusion evolved about a billion years before our species originated. It’s kind of like the octopus eye and the human eye evolved completely independently, but converged on closely identical specifics {if that is foreign to you, read up on mollusk comparative anatomy}. If you don’t like what biological history decided millions and millions of years ago, perhaps you should persuade nature to allow reproduction via sperm fusion or egg fusion. Many people who produce, or could be expected to produce, sperms and eggs in paired combination (also called ‘marriage’ when specifically recognized and subsidized by law and custom) turn out to be infertile, or have miscarriages, or have children who die as infants. The distinction is that homosexuality has zero possibility of providing for reproduction, and therefore is in comparison a hollow fictitious sham. You can ‘me too’ all you want from the homosexual perspective, and be like a movie-star-gazing groupie wanna-be driving yourself crazy with jealous envy, but the tank you are running on is entirely empty and all the manipulative rearrangements of reality in the world don’t change the underlying sperm + egg basic fact of the matter. You seem to have quite a bit more insight than many internet bandits, so I would recommend a little introspection: if you understand the homosexual marriage propaganda line is basically a matter of jealousy and envy regarding -what is not- and -what cannot be,- you may be able to learn more than most. I don’t get everything I want in the world, and anyone who wants to grow up also needs to learn some version of that lesson in life sooner or later. As to your point about infertile couples: many are thought to be infertile, by themselves and by medical experts. Then, after years of trying, the ‘infertile’ couple turns up with a pregnancy. That happened with the guy who was my pediatrician when I was a little kid, and it happened with a friend and his wife just last week. Their baby is due in June 2011. You have posited several unusual philosophical hypotheticals, which are things that can in fact occasionally be true. Without getting lost in details on this tangent of yours that I have volunteered to cooperate with, although I don’t want to go on for a thousand pages: Yes, there can be a baby with a sperm or an egg from one marriage partner, and some kind of medical technology assist, e.g. dad’s sperm with a donor egg, mom’s egg with a donor sperm, using in vitro fertilization and a loaned uterus, etc. etc. In these cases, the couple in good faith previously intended to marry and have kids the natural normal way, with every reasonable expectation they would be able to do so. Homosexuals always know in advance there is ZERO possiblity of reproduction, and that is the difference you are conveniently skipping over with yet another aspect of your drawn-out red herring. You are again, with your devil’s advocate questioning, skirting the point that homosexuality thousands of years ago came into practice and ancient evolutionary utility because it was a service function, i.e. the ancient homosexuals were taking themselves out of the direct gene pool in order to enhance the survival of sibling DNA through being, in effect, Darwinian-evolutionary-suicide accessory servants. This was valuable in the Stone Age, because human babies and cave women were very fragile and in need of protection for many years individually. For minimizing male-to-male jealousy when the guys were off hunting for essential protein, the guys left back at the cave to guard the women and kids had best be functional eunuchs, otherwise any caveman wouldn’t know which kid was really his. {There are other permutations involving bisexuals and posers. That subject matter is omitted for brevity here and doesn’t really change the point anyway.} Today, there is still utility for homosexuals to be involved in child care and even foster parenting if they are sincere and not taking advantage of the situation, e.g. financially scamming the system as anyone can do, or doing adoptions to promote pedophilia. However, there are more couples wanting babies than there are babies {especially white healthy kids due to societal prejudices} so advocating for homosexual adoption is essentially a moot point most of the time. Do you want a system wherein ‘loser’ children are relegated to ‘loser’ parents? That would be unbelievably cruel, insensitive, and insulting. Then there is the question as to whether male + male parents, or female + female parents, would be as healthy for upbringing as a male + female pair. That would take volumes to debate and to resolve would require an impartial reliable measurement system to clarify. There are two ways of developing insight: (1) If we understand the evolutionary function of homosexuality was an accessory service function, that gives an important clue. Also (2) if male + male or female + female DNA are placed into an egg that has been enucleated first where appropriate, the organism dies. Again, nature’s rules give a clue. There can of course be cases of homosexual adoptive parents doing a good job, or mass murderers reforming and becoming philanthropists, or drunk drivers never hitting anyone, or cigarette smokers never getting lung cancer and living to be 110. But, as to social policy and reasonable expectations, the likelihood of beneficial outcomes suggests that homosexual parenting is on average likely to create problems, people having a tendency toward mass murder is likely to create problems, people driving drunk is likely to create problems, and people smoking cigarettes is likely to create problems. Any time an unneeded risk is contemplated, the fact that the risk doesn’t need to be taken suggests to thinking people that the risk shouldn’t be taken. That’s why you also buckle up, or a least should. It doesn’t necessarily determine whether you will live or die, but anything that improves the odds (when the matter is of significance) entitles society to insist on improving the odds when innocent third parties have their lives/time/money at stake [in this specific case, the guys who have to pay for preventable injury you could unnecessarily do to yourself for want of a seat-belt]. Your analogy about mammalian promiscuity is apt with regard to humans– in the past. Promiscuity used to be a good thing in the Stone Age, for the sake of obtaining maximum genetic heterozygosity. The males had an interest in spreading their seed as widely as possible, and the cave ladies had a benefit from, on the sly, having a lot of guys interested in thinking –true or not– that this or that baby was their baby, especially considering the cavemen’s rate of philandering, disappearing, or outright being killed off young. As with homosexuality, adultery used to be a good thing. But with the rise of civilization, adultery as well as homosexuality became a net negative. Civilization prospers better when people can trust one another to not sexually cheat on one another. Civilization prospers better when useless sex isn’t happening to spread around diseases like AIDS and syphilis, which are spread by American homosexuals at 45x the background rate per recent Centers for Disease Control statistics. As a tangent to your tangent, realize also that when homosexuals cheat on one another, extreme murderous violence often ensues. Chances are, you know this already and don’t want to have to admit it too noticeably since it further weakens your line of argumentation. As to your final point about wild promiscuity promoting large numbers of offspring: yes, that is true as to numbers, and numbers were what was needed in the Stone Age. But it’s no longer true. With civilization, quality and harmony and reductions in jealous fighting are at a premium. If you can understand that, you will better be able to realize that behaviors formerly valuable in the Stone Age are no longer valuable today. That extends to murder, rape, homosexuality, stealing, adultery, and all kinds of other things that have been banned by laws. The law doesn’t stop everything, but the law is an attempt to make things better, and to in effect tame the genes from the cave men that we have all inherited. Some humans have the frontal cerebral lobe capacity to tame their inner cave man (or cave woman) and some don’t. For those who are deficient, society has evolved laws and jails. Remember also that the bonobo chimps evolved wild promiscuity and bisexuality, as in partial homosexuality throughout almost all the members of the species. Look where it got them over evolutionary time. If that is your ambition, by all means toss off your clothes, jump into the jungle, and live life with your bonobo brothers to your heart’s fondest content. Most of us, however, have better sense.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AU6Q75RMXB72QEMEZSNDZ2XIIM CraigA

        “Pointless non productive sex”…. you must hear that often.

        • Anonymous

          My daughter took 9 months and 3 days to be born. My son took 8 months and 25 days to be born. What is pointless and non-productive is homosexuality, which yields nothing other than disease, lies, sabotage, and denials. If you think homosexuality has any value to society, what is it? Homosexuality has no value, and accomplishes only negatives.

  • Anonymous

    Here he is in all his caveman glory, complete with Unabomber outfit, being interviewe. Enjoy — it’s truly a hoot.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUO5-7pkyUI&feature=player_embedded

    • Anonymous

      And it’s highly censored. Notice how the guy who starts calling me an asshole isn’t shown for the previous 15 minutes of what he was doing. They have censored out what he was doing, plus a whole bunch of other material. Got a clue when the video camera crew and editors are spinning you?

      • Anonymous

        Who cares what others were or weren’t doing. Your own words weren’t censored or put in your mouth. All that matters is what you said, and now the entire world can get a good laugh out of you.

        • Anonymous

          What matters is what I was speaking about, and the video preparers actively censored what preceded my comments because they are propagandists who are not interested in the truth of how that jerk was engaging in censorship efforts himself. They want to spoon-feed you the propaganda pieces they want you to swallow, and you are eager to be gullible and oblige. If you don’t understand the history of the event, or the history of civilization, you can hardly be expected to be competent concerning either concept. Ignorance of short-term or long-term history promotes folly. So, if you want to have premature Alzheimer’s and have no clue what happened two minutes preceding any point in time, you are perfect fodder for the homosexual battle plan. Enjoy.

          • Anonymous

            Again, what did or didn’t happen before is irrelevant. What matters is what you are saying in the video — you admit that yourself, calling it your “message.” So they’re your words. Nobody edited them into your mouth. That’s exactly why the whole thing is so funny — it’s all you. You, you, you. And it gets funnier every time you try to argue here against the video’s reality of you saying those absurd things. Keep it up — it’s tremendously entertaining!

          • Anonymous

            In other words, you know you have lost on the issues, so you want to invent a fraudulent foil as a distraction. If your bizarre claim that what did or didn’t happen before is irrelevant, then the fact your comment appears prior to this one makes your comment irrelevant. Ditto for anything else you have to say, since somebody will always come after you and make any and all of your prior comments worthless by your alleged logic. Actually, your active efforts to ignore the facts previously established are symptomatic of the habitual lies of the homosexual lobby, which frequently are nothing more to offer than deny, deny, deny. As you have nothing of substance to say, it’s not surprising you’d have to run away from the issues and degenerate to such an irrelevant and unconvincing level with your dysfunctional argument for ignorance being bliss if only the suckers will ignore everything except what is happening right now. Your argument amounts to lobbying for everyone to have instant Alzheimer’s, with no knowledge or regard for anything that happened even a few minutes ago. Nice amibition, and your peddling it shows the world the validity of your irrational manipulative homosexual propaganda.

          • Anonymous

            No dear, we haven’t lost, nor will we, for as long as out-of-touch homophobic hatemongering nutjobs like you freely and openly share your insanity for all the world to see, YOU are winning our fight FOR us, because the more everyday folks who are rational and not easily swayed by cheap cowardly dishonest fearmongering read and hear delusional lies like yours, the more folks who will vote for what’s right, not what you WISH was right.

            Once again, keep up the good work. I fully expect those three judges will be retained, BECAUSE of the deceitful insanity you and NOM display so freely.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HZ4BSHR76L5KXZHHESTVBH7VOE Justin

            Looks like that didn’t happen thankfully and the people can decide for themselves on this issue and not the judges! :)

          • Anonymous

            You haven’t lost on the pro-perversion Iowa Supreme Court losers? Keep winning the same way, and we will be lucky to be rid of the rest. The more everyday folks see how degenerate the homosexuals are, {like Iago in Shakespeare’s Othello leading to public mayhem like Eric Shaw’s shooting, the Lu Gang murders, and Steve Sueppel clubbing his wife and adopted kids before turning himself into a literal flaming faggot on the freeway}, that’s how more and more normal people will see what vile disgusting garbage you and your perverted posers are trying to peddle.

          • Anonymous

            Homophobia is a sin like lying, stealing and murder. God hates sin. Thousands and thousands have been able to walk away from homophobia. Having homophobic urges does not mean you MUST act on them. If you are plagued by unwanted homophobic urges, you can repent and leave it all behind as so many others have done. See the movie, “Tears For Bobby” in order to find out how even the most vicious, unrepentant homophobe was able to be cured of her sin of homophobia.

          • Anonymous

            Homophobia is an invented pervert word like “gay” being perverted away from meaning “happy,” or like queers pretending they have the exclusive right to somehow misappropriate the colors of the rainbow for their selfish personal delusional expressions. Rather than aimlessly babbling about “homophobia” you need to be discussing “HOMODISGUSTIA” because homosexuality is disgusting. It produced a population where 20% of urban queers carry the AIDS virus, and as reported by the Centers for Disease Control a few months ago, queers now have about 45 times more AIDS and syphilis than the normal well-adjusted population. So, if you like to get AIDS dementia and syphilis of the brain, and then die, hang with the homos. The increased morbidity and mortality of homosexual diseases is a big part of why the homosexuals can’t think straight. The previous is not hate and it is not sin. It is merely the truth, which inconveniences the diseased and the criminally-minded homos because it sheds light on the habitual hallucinations and deceptions of the homosexual propagandists.

          • Anonymous

            Now I have to reply to this… No Randy I don’t actually like your comment, it was just a mouse malfunction. Although I can offer you a little bit of interesting trivia about the historical usage of the word ‘gay’. Homosexuals didn’t hijack this wholesome expression, it actually was used to refer to sexual behavior all the way back to the 12th century. In fact the phrase gay man was first used as slang to actually refer to a man who slept with lots of women. So, sorry but your nice, sweet, wholesome ‘gay’ word was corrupted long before it was connected to homosexuals.

            Homophobia is actually a very accurate word. It is made of two other words –

            Homo – (from the Greek) meaning one and the same

            Phobia – A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear, dislike, or aversion to a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.

            Although I will grant that you are correct that homophobia is an invented word…. as are all words. We invent words to be able to clearly express ideas and concepts to each other.

            I did do a quick search for your suggested alternative invented word ‘HOMODISGUSTIA”, and I’m sure you will be thrilled to know that you are not the only person making up new words. You might get with your fellow language buffs and come to a common spelling however (they used it as homo-disgustia), and if you get really lucky it might catch on.

          • Anonymous

            “Gay” in modern usage has been cultivated in a media-manipulation way as I originally cited it. Yes, there is a distant antecedent, but the 12th-century usage was not revived as such, i.e. the 1960′s initiation of usage of the word was done without harkening back to the 12th-century version, any more than “we’ll all be gay when Johnny comes marching home” was used to drill Civil War militaristic fervor into the terminology. Ergo, the modern usage of ‘gay’ as a homosexual synonym is functionally de novo usage as dreamed up in the 1960′s. “Homophobia” is another modern contrivance designed for purposes of political propaganda, and your pretexting to try to justify it accentuates the point– e.g. the dislike or aversion to which you allude is normal, rather than abornormal. Abnormal is homosexuality, at about 3-5% of the population, while normal is heterosexuality, at about 95-97% of the population. You falsely infer that homosexuality is ‘not dangerous.’ That is absolutely false because US male homosexuals have 4,500% (average) more syphilis and AIDS than the general public. Can you make the case that syphilis and AIDS are not dangerous, especially when conveyed to the general population through bisexuals or contaminated blood and blood products? Nice try, but your claim of ‘not dangeous’ is patently absurd. Normal people have homodisgustia about the same way we have disgust for a plate full of sh/t. Considering how the homos use their anatomy to acquire and transmit deadly diseases, there’s a lot in common between disgust for homosexuality and disgust for sh/t. That disgust is normal, natural, and healthy as a way of avoiding pathogens and those who actively incubate and transmit them even after being warned not to.

        • Anonymous

          If prior comments or activities are of no relevence, then your comments or activities prior to this comment are of no relevence, by your own admission. Ditto for any other comments or actions you may or may not make in the future, since there will always be something coming later which renders your statements invalid through their having come previously to the other subsequent future statements.

      • Anonymous

        Sweetie? Try going to good as you or prop 8 trial tracker. They frequently post unedited video of NOM’s laughable protests. It’s your morally bankrupt NOMbies who edit video to make propaganda. The equality activists never need to edit video to prove their point. You batsh*t whackos do that for us just fine on your own.

        Oh btw, there very much IS a natural reason for homosexuality in humans, and it’s the same reason more than 40% of the world’s species of life have it; Overpopulation. There are simply too goddamned many of us on this planet, mostly because of archiac religious beliefs preventing reproductive responsibility. Nature makes some folks gay to cut down on the rampant overbreeding. We’re here to adopt and raise all those lovely kids you straight folks don’t want and dump in orphanages because you couldn’t be assed to used birth control.

        Once again sweetie, everytime you type here, you do more for equality than for the fight against it. Keep up the good work monkeyphile.

        • Anonymous

          The ‘equality’ (homo) activists ‘never need to edit video to prove their point’? That’s a laugh, since you can see them doing it here. They particularly wanted to censor out the guy faintly calling me an asshole (barely audible since– surprise– they were filming from his rear end) since they didn’t want to show what a jerk he was to me and the entire crowd, once he’d infiltrated it. What there are too many goddamned examples of is perverts like you. And yes, homosexuality originally in caveman days was in part to take excess population out of circulation and redirect it toward taking care of the tribe’s brood. Too many members of the species overgrazing the ecological niche can crash any population, so back then it was a nifty trick to have some tribal brothers and sisters set aside to take care of their siblings’ descendants. That made better survival for some, less competition for others, and the evolutionary tactic had its day in the sun. Then, along came agriculture and technology, which rendered homosexuality obsolete. Societal evolution has happened much more quickly than genetic evolution, so some humans are still being born today with evolutionary readiness for a bygone era– whether it is via homosexuality, Treacher-Collins syndrome, Pierre-Robin syndrome, or any other atavism. The extreme version of where homosexuality tried to go can be seen in modern bee and ant colonies, where all but the queen have their ‘equality,’ but most of us don’t to aspire to the creepy crawly insect sisterhood into which you have been unfortunate enough to descend.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UTEFIF5EFRDQFOI7Y6WUD325UU james

    Change is coming on Tuesday…Culver and three judges will be on the unemployment line

  • Anonymous

    That sign is so far from reality, it’s hard to take seriously. Just gotta chuckle.

    • Anonymous

      Not hardly. Homosexuality, like murder, rape, and stealing, is just an obsolete relic from the Stone Age. All four represent behaviors that benefitted their employers before there were civilized laws. Once society evolved, and victims’ rights became recognized and codified, the old vices became recognized as selfish and dangerous, and therefore were outlawed.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is that shrill anti-gay activist King (and others) are working overtime to redefine morality. Again and again and again, they insist that taking away rights from others and creating unequal laws is a “value.” It’s not a value and never was in America and it certainly isn’t a “value” to Jesus who commanded us to treat others as we want to be treated. We should not allow radical, out of state, anti-gay pressure groups ot come into Iowa with their own agenda and persuade us to destroy the independence of our judicial system. What will America look like once they have stacked our courts with “judges” who will only vote the way NOM demands? Millions of dollars and all the spinning in the world will not turn a moral wrong into a “value.” Vote Yes Yes Yes!

    • Anonymous

      Please read the rest of the Bible so you will realize what Jesus really taught. Jesus saids homosexuality is wrong and while we are to treat others like we want to be treated, we are also suppose to let others know when they are sinning against God. We can approach people with kindness while we let them know that they are sinning against God. We should go with other Christians and show them Bible verses that say they are doing wrong, but we should be kind and gentle in the process. We should not encourage them to continue living in sin by having laws that say it’s OK to live in sin. We are not discriminating or treating anyone unfairly when we do as Jesus commanded by letting others know when they are sinning and encourage them to try to change. Many people are cruel and do discriminate and do not treat others fairly and I believe that’s wrong. I treat everyone with love and would never be mean to someone I disagreed with. I’m in a support group with someone who is a lesbian and who often brings her partner and they hold hands, etc. I have become their friends and have not said anything about their lifestyle. It’s not the time or place for me to say anything. I just pray for them and hope they will see their sin. I hope some day the opportunity would arise that some others along with me will be able to approach them kindly and gently and with love and show them the Bible verses that let them know they are living in sin. I would want to know if I was doing something wrong and I wouldn’t want a law saying it’s OK to do it because it would tempt and encourage me to do something that’s Jesus teaches is wrong. It is a very loving thing to help others live better lives as long as we speak to them in a way we would want to be spoken to and treat them how we would want to be treated.

    • Anonymous

      Morality is the promotion of civilized standards over base animal instincts which were left over from the Stone Age. It used to be in the caveman era that murder, rape, homosexuality, stealing, and other crimes benefitted those individuals and tribes that practiced them. Their DNA was preferentially transmitted, and that of the victims was not. Meanwhile, agriculture, technology, and civilization developed and rendered murder obsolete. Ditto for rape, homosexuality, stealing, and all the rest. Today, many people lack the ability to control the old animal instinct for murder, rape, homosexuality, stealing, etc. etc. because their frontal cerebral lobes are insufficient. That’s why civilization has invented things like laws and jails– to control irresponsible people who don’t have the brainpower to be able to control themselves. If you are a bible-reader, read up on Jesus’s absolute condemnation against homosexuality. If you are against out of state influence, are you willing to oppose Tom Harkin funding himself with 85% out of state money (www.opensecrets.org) and are you willing to oppose Tim Gill shovelling in his big bucks from Colorado, so Gronstal can blackmail Democratic officeholders with ‘Vote my way in the legislature, or else I’ll fund pro-homo rivals against you in your next Democratic Party primary?’ When we have better, fair-minded, civilized judges, who vote with NOM, we’ll have fewer homo-hotheads running around trying to infest the citizenry with their AIDS-dementia and neurosyphilitic brain disease– including via bisexuals to the general population.

  • Anonymous

    I love it when people throw around the phrase ‘judicial activism’ or they accuse judges of ‘legislating from the bench’. These two sound byte generating phrases really only show a total lack of understanding of how the judicial system of the US is actually expected to work.Lets actually see what judicial activism and legislating from the bench are referring to shall we?

    These judges are being held up as villains because what they actually did was the job they were tasked to perform. When their decision ran counter to the way these bus people think it should have they start screaming about the judges legislating from the bench. These judges did not legislate anything, they performed their appointed role under the Iowa Constitution as the “count for the correction of errors at law”.

    What does it mean for the Iowa Constitution to task this court with the correction of errors at law? What exactly is an error at law? An error at law is considered to have occurred when a court is asked to make a determination if an act by the legislature violates a Constitutional protection because of the enforcement of the legislative act and after a process of judicial review the court determines that there is a violation and determines that the act is unconstitutional, either in whole or in part. When the court reaches that decision the act or the part of the act in violation is considered to be null and void.

    Because the Iowa Supreme Court has the final determination with regards to the Constitutionality of a given legislative act their decision is final with respect as to the act in question. Once the court makes the decision the act in whole, or the specific parts of the act held unconstitutional can no longer be enforced.

    These justices did not make new law, they did what they were expected to do and looked at this act with respect to the equal protection clause of the Iowa Constitution and the supremacy clause of the same. Their decision was another one in a long line of decisions by this court over the existence of the state of Iowa that upheld the belief that all men and woman are created equal and that all citizens should be considered equal in the eyes of the law.

    These judges aren’t being targeted because they overstepped their bounds, they are being targeted because they took seriously the job given them under the state constitution. They are being targeted because the only way anti-equality activists can deny gay couples the right to marry is to get another act passed by the legislature or by popular vote and by targeting these three judges and trying to get them removed from the bench, replacing them with other justices who share their views on the subject, they have a better chance to keep a law denying equal rights from being declared unconstitutional in a second court case.

    I would strongly urge anyone who is concerned that the Iowa legislature might decide to someday strip away their rights to vote to retain these judges. They have shown that they have the integrity to defend the rights of the oppressed, even when it may not be the most popular or accepted thing to do…

    If you ever have to fight for your rights in court, who would you want on the bench making the decision if you were deserving of the protection of the law?

    • Anonymous

      Jim Moody offers a lot of pretexting, and conveniently ignores what really happened. A pretext test case was fabricated by Lambda Legal and hustled into the Polk Co. Court of District Judge Hanson, who had the fix pre-arranged so as to fabricate precisely one test case. The Supreme Court had previously been rigged by the picks of openly pro-homo Vilsack, and crypto pro-homo Terry Branstad who pretends otherwise but revealed what he is really made of when Joy Corning came out of office and out into the open with her previously hidden pro-homo bent. Branstad’s son Eric (normal himself) has also been running interference for homosexual power scams right here in Johnson Co., as I have seen from direct observation during the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign. Once a little smoke and mirrors over the years got the Supreme Court stacked properly, and Lambda Legal channelled the requisite excuse through Judge Hanson, the predetermined outcome was a slam-dunk. For extra lubrication, Reid Forgrave from the Des Moines Register helped nurture the scam along with blow-by-blow propaganda assistance. And today, to make it stick, we have Gronstal functioning as a unilateral dictator in Des Moines to make sure the supposed people’s legislature is merely constipated with his personal refusal to do anything but block a true legislative review of the issue of homosexual marriage. That’s the homosexual agenda in Des Moines, in Iowa City, and in Cedar Rapids at this rally: stomp down on freedom of speech, and don’t let the little Iowa munchkins have their right to decide anything for themselves.

      • Anonymous

        Randy — Sorry it’s taken me so long to get back with you. I’m actually assuming you mean me because your comment seems to be about Jim Moody’s post, and my name isn’t Jim… In fact totally wrong gender, but I won’t hold it against you.

        Anyway, I’m truly amazed at how deep this conspiracy goes and how well planned it was. I would like the people behind this to come up with the plan to build my back deck.

        No one prevented the (your words) “little Iowa munchkins” from deciding this issue, because it never went up for a popular vote. You really should blame your duly elected officials for writing a law that wouldn’t stand up, or maybe it is more comforting to believe that it was a conspiracy.

        You say my post was full of pretexting and I ignored what really happened. I think you’re the one ignoring what really happened here, the fact that a group of people who have the duty to uphold the Iowa Constitution disagreed with you and sided with people you don’t like.

        Randy I wish you the best with your life, that you will happy, healthy, respected and loved. I don’t want to intrude on your pursuit of those liberties, I just want the same liberties extended to me.

  • Anonymous

    Randy simply points out the obvious, which you are all blind to.

    People will stop marrying and procreating if gays are around – why do you think the cavemen went extinct? Cause they had too many gay cavemen, duh. If we don’t have children to run our farms and factories, it will be economic death.

    • Anonymous

      Like Sherry Peyton, ‘truthful’ patriot attempts to ape other people’s comments with things they never said. This is just another illustration the homosexual agenda acts like a gang of monkeys (or chimpanzees), so thank you for illustrating the point I made originally with my sign.

      • Anonymous

        Um, no hon, you make OUR point every time you type. You’re the perfect example of a conservative extremist fearmongering a worldview that is completely out of touch with reality. Keep up the good work, you’ll get these good and noble judges far more yes votes for every rational person who reads your insane ramblings.

        • Anonymous

          Perverts make their point every time the public sees how perverted they are. That’s why they work so hard to cover up their complicity (corresponding to Iago in Shakespeare’s Othello) in events like Eric Shaw’s shooting, the Lu Gang murders, and the Steve Sueppel family clubbings. The public doesn’t have homophobia, but rather homodisgustia, since homosexuality has been obsolete since the Stone Age whether you have gotten the message yet or not. That’s why homosexuality is the worldview that has gone completely out of touch with reality, with most of us beyond your little delusional world having evolved past the primitive homo tendencies left over from the caveman era. You just can’t see what you represent any more than a dinosaur could develop insight. Thanks for appreciating my ‘good work,’ and as the voters showed abundantly clearly they aren’t falling for the dead-ended whining of the diseased homo lobby you sought to promote.

  • Anonymous

    In OUR Galaxy with 100′s of BILLIONS of Stars/Suns & Planets….which is 100,000 light yrs across..in a Universe with 100′s of Billions of Galaxies….No Mythical Sky-God gives a Ratz behind what we Humans do with Our Private Parts (hoo-hoos or Pee-pees) ..we are NOT that Important in the size and scope & Vastness of the Universe. We Humans are a mere spec of dust. There ARE More Stars/suns in the sky/universe then there are..grains of sand on all the earth…..get it….There ARE More Stars/suns in the sky/universe then there are..grains of sand on all the earth…..this man-made Goblly-gook,written BY Men (not women) is to feep the Sheeple/people in line,in Fear, and the Coffers full $$$

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AU6Q75RMXB72QEMEZSNDZ2XIIM CraigA

    Hey Randy-

    The squeaky wheel wants to get greased? Saw a video where I heard your voice! Kids in my high school would have called you out for the closet case you are; you would never get away with a lisp like that! See you in the bathroom…..

    • Anonymous

      That’s your ambition all right. Since I don’t talk that way, the lesbo crew who did the filming must have added in some sort of electronic voice modulation as well as delivering a queerly edited cuts.

      • Anonymous

        Nope, Randy, no electronics or weird editing. I’ve heard you speak in person…including that very day at the Out Of State Bus Of Hate event. I heard much of your conversation with the media. The folks here have you pegged dead-on. You sound stereotypically gay, like the “fagboy” you accuse others of being. You also sound stereotypically bi-polar and delusional. Too bad you have no close friends or family who love you. Were that the case they could commit you and get you the help you sorely need.

        • Anonymous

          Real credible. You can’t even use your own name.

          • Anonymous

            More re “Regular Joe” in light of his multiple mass-production junk postings:
            You continue to establish your level of your credibility by being unable to use your real name. Anyone who knows me knows I don’t have a lisp, so your most recent blatant lie with that assertion is a transparent demonstration of your desperation. As you are echoing your earlier inadequacies with another empty posting, I’ll point out yet again “In other words, you have nothing of substance to say. It probably relates to your unwillingness to use your real name, so you can hide in the shadows as the crooked characteristically do. You obviously don’t want to be seen alongside your ulterior motives.”

        • Anonymous

          Nice try but an obvious lie. I was interviewed by all-female/lesbo crews. Nobody biologically male was near enough to hear anything in the wind that was whipping around my sunglasses….just look at the video from KCRG or You-Tube and try another lie next time. With enough practice, your imagination and attempts at deception might become credible to a few suckers. As to your associated delusions, I’m busy at Thanksgiving with my son and other relatives right now, so I’ll have to leave you to your blabbering. Fagboy homosexuality doesn’t create children– even you must realize that from personal experience.

        • Anonymous

          My interviews were with females and pseudo-females. No “Joes” were within earshot, as verifiable by the wind strength seen ripping around my sunglasses on the You-Tube video. Nice try with another transparent lie. If you think Iowa City’s homo racket is a delusion, try to explain away why they have worked so hard to cover up the Eric Shaw homicide, the Lu Gang murders, and the Steve Sueppel murders. Shakespeare understood such perverted jealousies and modus operandi, which he condensed into the Iago figure in “Othello.”

          • Anonymous

            Sorry, Randy, but once again you’re wrong. I was right there, only a couple feet away from you, when you were interviewed. You even read the sign I brought to the event: “Support Traditional Marriage One Man + Many Women + Divorce Banned”.
            You really do appear to be in serious need of help. If you’re in Iowa City, I encourage you to check in at the VA hospital. Perhaps it’s a chemical imbalance, perhaps something else. Regardless, there is help available. Seek it, and get well soon.

          • Anonymous

            Your failing to use your real name demonstrates your credibility level. Your recently demonstrated lack of understanding of what marriage is, under your expressed hallucination of “traditional marriage,’ demonstrates how disoriented you are as to reality. Considering how frequently you succumb to what the little voices keep telling you, you need to return to your friends at the VA. They’re your friends, and they are there to help you, to help you. If it’s your AIDS dementia acting up again, they have retrovirals for you. If it’s another bout of neurosyphilis, there are promising antibiotics. And, you’ll be among ‘likeminded’ company at the VA, since the Iowa City homosexual racket has put so much effort the past few years into infiltrating the psychology and psychiatry departments with semi-closeted homos, so they can pronounce how ‘acceptable’ it is to be perverted, and cultivate acceptance for themselves among members of the public who aren’t noticing their ulterior motives. And when you go, take along some perverted friends who need professional counseling. Crazy perverted politicos like Janelle Rettig and Mike Wright are out of the closet, and Joe Bolkcom is halfway out already. Do Iowa a big favor and get professional help for Mike Gronstal while you’re at it. Don’t you just feel so sorry for how repressed his inner homo demons are getting to be?

          • Anonymous

            Merry Christmas, Randy.
            The Christmas we get we deserve. ~ G. Lake

          • Anonymous

            The malicious criminal mind tends to “think” along the lines of “my victim got what he deserved” and you are providing further evidence of the depraved Stone Age criminal nature of your homosexual agenda. Your statement is as intelligent as saying Hitler’s victims got what they deserved. Hitler, like the homosexuals, was a sex pervert and operated at the brutish Stone Age level of thinking and conducting himself, with reckless disregard for anything other than vicious selfish ambition at someone else’s expense. Once again, you are exhibiting typical selfish homosexual defects, so it’s no surprise that civilized citizens value homosexuality at the level of the degenerate garbage it demonstrates itself to be.

  • Anonymous

    Are we missing the elephant in the room here?

    http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=AUO5-7pkyUI

    In that video, Randy describes himself having been in medical school, yet I haven’t heard the honorific “Doctor” used anywhere to describe him. So, unless he is a doctor and his title just hasn’t been used so far in this discussion, the most probable inference is that he washed out of med school prior to graduation for some reason.

    He also describes his revelation about the “gay conspiracy” occurring when a member of the med school faculty suggested that he needed some kind of serious psychological help.

    2 + 2 = 4?

    • Anonymous

      No, in medical school I was blackmailed with lies from a dean of students named Carol Aschenbrener. I knew something very weird was behind her lies and contrivances, so I spent thousands of dollars investigating her and her weird network. It turned out the racket she was trying to steer me to was her pet lesbian network, including a subordinate employee that she had brought home from the medical school dean’s office and helped get trained in psychology. Aschenbrener’s plans involved felony extortion (711.4 paragraph 5 of the Code of Iowa), which is kind of like lesbian T. Anne Cleary blackmailing Lu Gang and helping precipitate his murder fest at the same University of Iowa about 4 years later. The homo rackets at the university in particular like to misuse state authority for personal selfish purposes, then they wonder why knowledgeable people don’t like them.

      • Anonymous

        Oh, of course. That doesn’t sound at all like something typed by an unmedicated bipolar in a manic phase.

        But how do the Illuminati fit in?

        • Anonymous

          Nice try. They make things more complicated than you seem able to follow, like Iago in Shakespeare’s Othello wasn’t a straightforward type of a guy either. Perverted is an apt word for perverted people, which is why perverts are known as perverts. Do tell us about the Illuminati, and those little voices that have been giving you your marvelous insights lo these many years.

          • Anonymous

            Randy, I know most people who saw your video focused on the fact that your voice sounds stereotypically gay, which it does, and for obvious reasons the irony made commenting on that irresistible for them.

            I, on the other hand, have had several acquaintances over the years who were bipolar and didn’t take the medication. The principal thing that struck me about your video was that you also spoke so much like their distinctive cadence. Your weird rant above about the ‘homo rackets’ also genuinely sounds like the same kind of hyperactive flights of paranoia they were prone to.

            I’m not a doctor, so I don’t know whether you’re bipolar. It can’t be diagnosed just by affect any more than your gay-ish mannerisms prove you’re a closet case. And it wouldn’t really matter if you were a closeted gay or bipolar.

            What matters is that you’re just wrong. I’m heterosexual, but I have had out gay and lesbian friends and colleagues for decades and the main thing I’ve observed about them is that in every substantive way they are no different than any other demographic I’ve known. Some are smart and some are dumb. Some are kind and some are jackasses. Some are prudent and some are profligate.

            But except for the specific characteristic of being sexually attracted to members of their own gender (and, in the case of the gays, an excessive devotion to musical theatre) they are as a class completely unexceptional. Whatever it is that’s making you hate them so virulently comes from inside your own head, not from them.

          • Anonymous

            You are misinterpreting the facts. The weird tones the video makers wove into the audio are due to their equipment and tweaking. You don’t know what I sound like; I do, e.g. from hearing my own voice on tape recorders. Yes, the audio is weird, but it is an alteration. The entire You-Tube video is an alteration in the sense that it is highly selectively edited, e.g. to censor out the free-speech trampler I was objecting to. Also re the segments that were shown vs. not shown: You weren’t there to see it made, so of course you wouldn’t know you are being spun by selective editing or by electronic manipulation of voice tones. As to cadences and similarities to bipolar or this and that: weird people do weird things, and speaking about them can make the speaker, e.g. me, seem weird too (cf. James Thurber’s “The Catbird Seat” short story). Don’t think that a brief edited few minutes of coverage about years of my observations will give you the full flavor of what they do around Iowa City (and elsewhere as I have heard from friends). The easiest way for you to understand their modus operandi is to review the Iago character in Shakespeare’s “Othello.” I have no idea whether Shakespeare intended him to be an example of Iowa City-homosexual-style conduct, but his intricate deceptions are very similar as to both specifics and generalities relative to what I have witnessed. If you can be conned into believing someone else’s experience is all some sort of fantastic hallucination, they’ve got you exactly where they want you. Or, as P.T. Barnum put it: “There’s a sucker born every minute, and two standing in line ready to take him.” For example, the weird (later found to be lesbian) medical school dean of students, viz. Carol Aschenbrener, set up several steps of obvious nonsense over time, then tried to claim I was a mental case, then tried to steer me to her pals rather than the university psychiatry department, and part of the charm of her plan was that it was complicated, so that if I were to talk about it then the average casual listener would likely think the whole thing was a mentally deranged rant, as in James Thurber’s “The Catbird Seat” as referred to earlier. There is no way a short video can convey the intricacies these people employ in their attempts to make their efforts hard to trace. I pointed that out when I made the video, but either that part was edited out or you didn’t notice it if they left it in. But they do make mistakes, and if you are in a position to watch them try to stuff 50 pounds of manure in a 20 pound sack, you’d have to be awfully dense not to notice there is funny business behind their inconsistencies. If you then spend thousands of dollars on specific investigative work, you can check into what they have to hide and find out what it is– e.g. I knew something was very wrong before I investigated and THEN found out it was a homosexual racket at work in Iowa City. For one obvious example: if I were really a mental case, how could I possibly survive for three years as a medical student, including doing a psychiatry rotation, without it being noticed until the tail end of my third year? Everything was engineered so I’d be booted out the last day of the third year, after a lot of scheming from the homo racket, since legally it’s impossible to flunk out a fourth year medical student unless they are stealing drugs or murdering patients. It’s kind of like if you don’t like the Soviet Union, they will declare you are mentally ill for not liking the Dear Leader so that they can cast you into the Gulag. I’m not claiming that all homos are racketeers or that all racketeers are homos– just that there is a lot of correlation that I have seen. As to Iowa in general, just look at Sen. Gronstal– he is continuing to put himself in place as a unilateral dictator to prevent the homosexual marriage issue from even being considered by the state legislature. When one person like Gronstal is trying to dictate to the public at large, it’s a clue his motives aren’t legitimate.
            What matters is you haven’t walked in this Indian’s mocassins, so you wouldn’t know whether I’m right or wrong. I have known, prior to seeing Iowa City, many obvious homosexuals and I saw no illegal/racketeering activity from them, or had any problems in classes taught by homosexual teachers (e.g. the English class where we covered Othello was taught by a male homosexual who wasn’t a jerk about it). You said “in every substantive way they are no different than any other demographic I’ve known,” which is to the best of your knowledge. If you had been acquainted with enemy spies like the Russians we uncovered a few months ago, child-molesting priests, Ted Bundy or Swango-type mass murderers, etc. etc.you likely would not have known they had things in their ongoing backgrounds to hide. For instance, a psychiatry resident (Rick Rinehart) I passed my psychiatry rotation under had had Swango as a supervising resident when he was in earlier years a medical student in Ohio. I asked Rinehart, “What did you notice that was unusual about Swango?” Rinehart’s answer was, “Nothing at all.” That’s not to say your homo friends are necessarily bad people just because they provide no apparent indication either, but it is to say that if they or your hetero friends had something to hide, they wouldn’t necessarily let you in on their secret. In evolutionary history, bonobos widely incorporated homosexual activity throughout their species, and it got them as far as it did. On the line to Homo sapiens, there was more of an insect-colony type of species subspecialization wherein some heteros went off to hunt (i.e. stronger males to go get the protein) while the homo or homo-poser bisexual men stayed back in guarded cluster to nurture the brood. These few were set aside as functional eunuchs to help defend the brood back at the cave, and they thus helped the survival of fraternal DNA even though it was not the DNA of their own direct descendants. Poser bisexuals had it relatively safer back at the cave, and on the sly could try to sneak access to the harems they were ‘guarding.’ Stone Age lesbians were useful as accessory babysitters, as human children require a lot of child care labor for many years, and even cave women needed time to wander off a little for gathering nuts and berries. That was then, this is now. Now we have stores, money, phones, babysitters, and police. We no longer need homosexuals back at the tribal stomping grounds to protect against saber-toothed tigers and raids from enemy tribes. Today, there’s no practical value in homosexuality, and it does on the male end of things spread around AIDS and syphilis at 4,500% percent the background rate, including via bisexuals to the normal heterosexual population. It’s not a matter of hate on my part– it’s a matter of experience. If people spent years (in what I later learned was premeditated since my first medical school year) trying to con you into suicide, slandering you as a psycho, lying to your wife behind your back claiming you were cheating on her, trying to kidnap your kids, doing physical sabotage of your belongings, and making you unemployable afterward, trying to feed you to AIDS-exposed sluts and whores, etc. etc. then you would be a little more alert to what these people are capable of and actually do in the real world. So open your eyes and consider the possibilities, because behind the smiling faces of your friends there may be some psychopaths whether they are hetero or homo. Not only that, but this racket has been involved in the Iowa City deaths of Eric Shaw, the Lu Gang murders, and the Steve Sueppel clubbing murders of his family prior to his own suicide. Of course the homo racket, helped by the Iowa City police, and former County Attorney Pat White (backed by the Iowa Supreme Court), and a well-bribed St. Mary’s Church, along with state tax dollars channelled by the racket through the U of I, just wants everything kept dummied up so the power relations and money flows stay status quo. The Iowa City homo racket is enjoying a lot of easy living on Joe Taxpayer’s dime, so why would they want you to know the first thing about it? They have every reason to make their story line hard to follow, and every reason to make anyone who figures anything out scared, dead, impoverished, or slandered as a psycho.

  • Anonymous

    My best friend comes with me on hunting trips. And I wouldn’t trust you to guard anything, much less women and little children.

    • Anonymous

      That’s a transparent way to avoid discussing the subject matter, as well as an expression of what you don’t know about whom you don’t know.

      • http://www.cnn.com MarconiDarwin

        So says you, who cannot be trusted with women and little children, and who has friends that he cannot take on hunting trips and cannot trust to guard his woman (women?) and children.

        LOL.

        Transparent indeed!

        • Anonymous

          I do fine with women, little children, or anyone who is honest. Creepy conniving perverts don’t seem to like me very well however.

  • Anonymous

    “Anti-judge bus tour dwarfed by pro-retention rally”

    What that tells me is that the homosexuals are a highly organized, very loud, very obnoxious, but very small group of professional protesters. We know this because Ternus, Baker, and Streit all lost.

    • Anonymous

      And their loss is a horrible horrible thing for freedom, truth, honesty and democracy. Their loss tells people that if out of state homophobes come in, lie through their teeth, and instill very false fears in naive people like you, you idiots will do their dirty work at the polls. Nice one. Welcome to your doomed country.

      • Anonymous

        Their loss validates Abraham Lincoln’s observation that you can’t fool all the people all the time. Now State Sen. Gronstal is trying to act as Supreme Dictator, vowing he won’t let the Iowa Legislature take up the issue of defining marriage in Iowa. Typical. The homosexual battle plan is to infiltrate operatives like Gronstal (with or without a make-believe marriage of his own) so they can crow about how “ethical” they are, while in reality aspiring dictators like Gronstal merely want to obstruct legitimate governmental process and act as special interest pirates to hijack Iowa’s resources and government to their own personal selfish purposes. But, Gronstal and his pervert allies can’t fool all the people all the time.

        • Anonymous

          Do you ever read what you write, Randy? Please have your meds checked.

          • Anonymous

            Again, you have lost the argument and have no substance with which to respond to what I said. Similarly, “In other words, you have nothing of substance to say. It probably relates to your unwillingness to use your real name, so you can hide in the shadows as the crooked characteristically do. You obviously don’t want to be seen alongside your ulterior motives.”

          • Anonymous

            You’re absolutely correct, Randy. You’re on to my ulterior motives, and are forcing me deeper into hiding. I just hope you don’t find the bugs, plants, and other infernal objects around you, else other means shall be necessitated posthaste.

            (..BOT: Xaxon, the lunatic is in the hall. 1QB48P Biscuit Filigree Outgrabe.2WN59Q. Xaxon, EOT..)

          • Anonymous

            Enjoy your spaz, if that’s all you can do.

    • Anonymous

      It’s like the guy who spent 15 minutes in front of the JudgeBus yelling at Steve King, trying to drown him out and step on his First Amendment rights– not to mention the entire crowd’s, which came to hear Steve King and not the flaming screaming fagboy. The perverts, and their media friends, wouldn’t think of showing the public how the homosexual interests yell and whine to step on other people’s rights. That’s why fagboy’s antics were censored in the media, as in covered up, so the public won’t realize what the homo goons really are up to. Their lack of regard for civilized decency and the Constitution is enough to show everyone why we DON’T need homosexuals and their propagandists (in or out of the media) trying to dictate public policy. Three of their Supreme Stooges are now gone, and it’s time to turn out of office more of the front-men from Iowa’s homosexual rackets.

      • Anonymous

        Your tinfoil hat isn’t filtering so well, eh Randy?

        • Anonymous

          In other words, you have nothing of substance to say. It probably relates to your unwillingness to use your real name, so you can hide in the shadows as the crooked characteristically do. You obviously don’t want to be seen alongside your ulterior motives.

          • Anonymous

            OK, Randy, you figured me out. I’m part of that vast, far-reaching, and nefarious Freedom’s Auditors Utilizing Xenodochy. We’re like the Bilderbergs or the Build-A-Bears, but with with different uniforms. We’re so fearsome that even Glenn Beck cowers and refuses to mention us on-air….he knows what we’ll do if he does.

          • Anonymous

            Oh? Is it time for your next S & M routine? This time will it be pink lace, black leather… and with or without the pigs and donkeys encore?

    • Anonymous

      Or, it tells cogent folks that midterm demographics tend to skew towards old white bigots. Sooner or later they’ll all die off, just as the pro-slavery ones did, the anti-women’s suffrage did, etc. Yep, they’ll die off, and the world will be a better place for it.

      • Anonymous

        Yep. Yep. The homosexuals are a bigoted pro-death lobby all right. They love to spread around AIDS and syphilis, so that everyone else can be as AIDS-dementia ridden and neurosyphilitic as they are. Yep, yep.

        • Anonymous

          Really, Randy? Really? Where do you get this stuff…the alien-implanted device in your head, or is the KGB somehow involved?
          Seek help, before you hurt yourself or someone else.

  • Anonymous

    In the Stone Age, murder was a good thing (for its practitioners). So were rape, homosexuality, stealing, and various other activities now regarded as less than civilized. Murder promoted transmission of DNA to the next generation at the expense of its eliminated victims. Rape did the same DNA promotion even more directly. Stealing enriched its practitioners and let them prosper more to reproduce more and transmit their DNA more down to modern times. Homosexuality directly limited (and limits) DNA transmisssion, but to the extent it let any Stone Age tribe avoid overgrazing the ecological niche, and allowed set-aside cavemen to protect the harem and their siblings’ children while the men were off hunting, homosexuality provided a net surivival benefit during the Stone Age, hence its being favored in Darwinian evolution until about 10,000 years ago. Then agriculture, technology, and civilization came along. Homosexuality became obsolete with the rise of civilization– especially now that its earlier function is superseded by the existence of grocery stores, money, babysitters, telephones, grandparents, and police. Homosexuality, as an atavism, provides no benefit for society today, and its main effect is to excite those who are thousands of years behind the times as they selfishly inflict their AIDS, syphilis, and antibiotic resistant gonorrhea on the rest of the population through other confused backward people who are afflicted with various levels of bisexuality.

  • Anonymous

    RegularJoe 12/17/2010 10:46 AM

    Merry Christmas, Randy.
    The Christmas we get we deserve. ~ G. Lake
    ___________________________________________

    The malicious criminal mind tends to “think” along the lines of “my victim got what he deserved” and you are providing further evidence of the depraved Stone Age criminal nature of your homosexual agenda. Your statement is as intelligent as saying Hitler’s victims got what they deserved. Hitler, like the homosexuals, was a sex pervert and operated at the brutish Stone Age level of thinking and conducting himself, with reckless disregard for anything other than vicious selfish ambition at someone else’s expense. Once again, you are exhibiting typical selfish homosexual defects, so it’s no surprise that civilized citizens value homosexuality at the level of the degenerate Nazi garbage it demonstrates itself to be.

    • Anonymous

      Io Saturnalia, Randy.
      Go crazy – punch a higher floor ~ P. R. Nelson

      • Anonymous

        It’s already abundantly clear that dealing with the subject matter is beyond your integrity or intelligence. But you can’t help it– being a homo, you were born that way, right?

        • Anonymous

          Serene Solstice, Randy.
          Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas ~ H. Martin and R. Blane

          • Anonymous

            As with any other deluded pro-pervert propagandist, “Regular” Joe regularly can’t deal with the subject matter because homosexuality is so indefensible and unjustifiable, and so he/she/it must attempt to find refuge in irrelevant evasions.

          • Anonymous

            After five long months they let him out of the home;
            Excitable boy, they all said…
            (apologies to W. Zevon)

          • Anonymous

            As usual, Regular Joe is the advocate of eternal anesthesia.

          • Anonymous

            Well, he’s just an excitable boy.

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