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Christian group says gay marriage more dangerous than smoking

By Jason Hancock | 03.12.10 | 4:53 pm

Homosexual activity is “more dangerous for individuals who engage in it than is smoking,” and because of this, state lawmakers need to pass a constitutional amendment overturning last year’s Iowa Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage, according to Iowa Family Policy Center President Chuck Hurley.

Hurley was responding to a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report that said gay men have higher rates of HIV and syphilis than the general population. Because of these figures, if the state allows gay men to get married they are “sanctioning self destructive behavior.”

Iowa Family Policy Center President Chuck Hurley speaking on the steps of the state Capitol earlier this year (photo by Jason Hancock/Iowa Independent).

Iowa Family Policy Center President Chuck Hurley speaking on the steps of the state Capitol earlier this year (photo by Jason Hancock/Iowa Independent).

“The Iowa Legislature outlawed smoking [in some public places] in an effort to improve health and reduce the medical costs that are often passed on to the state,” Hurley said. “The secondhand impacts of certain homosexual acts are arguably more destructive, and potentially more costly to society than smoking.”

The CDC report made it clear that “factors such as homophobia and stigma” can prevent gay men from seeking prevention, testing, and treatment services.

“There is no single or simple solution for reducing HIV and syphilis rates among gay and bisexual men,” said Kevin Fenton, director of the CDC’s National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD and TB Prevention. “We need intensified prevention efforts that are as diverse as the gay community itself. Solutions for young gay and bisexual men are especially critical, so that HIV does not inadvertently become a rite of passage for each new generation of gay men.”

Jordan Selha, executive director of the AIDS Project of Central Iowa, told The Des Moines Register that the CDC data is more evidence that additional resources are needed for prevention and tests.

Not so, says Hurley.

“Iowa lawmakers need to pay attention to hard facts and not be persuaded by emotion laden half-truths,” he said. “Because of their unwillingness to correct the error of last April’s Iowa Supreme Court opinion, the Iowa Legislature is responsible for sanctioning activities that will lead to dramatically higher rates of HIV and syphilis in Iowa.”

Hurley’s comments echo those made by WHO-AM radio host Jan Mickelson last month at an Iowa Family Policy Center fundraiser. Mickelson said that simply being gay shortens your life, a statement that is only backed up by widely discredited or misrepresented studies. Mickelson’s comments came during his introduction of former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and GOP gubernatorial hopeful Bob Vander Plaats, who were the featured speakers at the event.

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  • foreignadaption

    So since heterosexuals are the #1 spread of HIV, that would mean that Straight Marriage is more dangerous then Gay Marriage and Smoking??

  • AMALGAMATE

    Wow-what a moron
    I thank God for men like this though-each time one opens their mouth, the gay cause is furthered.

  • hyhybt

    Do these people really not understand the difference between sex and marriage? Or perhaps they haven't quite caught on to the germ theory of disease yet. *Promiscuity* spreads HIV, etc. Marriage encourages *monogamy.* Or perhaps it's those two words they don't comprehend.

  • jove4015

    Right… by banning monogamous relationships and forcing gay men back into the world of permanent singledom, you will reduce the rate of infectious disease. That makes *perfect sense*. My god, do these people listen to themselves?

  • RegularJoe

    Hurley is far more dangerous than smoking or AIDS….he infects stupid people with his fear and hate and bile. If ever there was a case for a legitimate extermination of a dangerous creature to prevent a greater harm with an appropriate necessity defense……

  • youvebeenhad

    Don't like obesity? Compare it to smoking. Don't like gay people? Compare it to smoking. Don't like salt or transfats? Compare it to smoking. The template is wearing thin. This is all propaganda based on an assault on smokers whose formula has made tremendous strides with the anti-smoking progressive movement. Please be careful about the parallels that you draw. They will fall like dominoes eventually as people become more aware.

  • marbee

    http://www.mskcc. org/mskcc/ html/12463. cfm
    This prediction tool from Sloan Kettering can assess a long-term smoker’s risk of developing lung cancer in the next 10 years based on the person’s age, sex, smoking history, and asbestos exposure.
    I used a 51 yr old female who smoked for 39 years at 15 cigarettes per day. Results: Over the next 10 years if she does not smoke the risk of developing lung cancer is 2%. If she continues to smoke her risk of developing lung cancer is 3%. I guess perhaps gay activity would not be very dangerous after all then! Neither is second hand smoke!

  • yesiammark

    This is the dumbest, most preposterous thing I have read in a long time. Are these people crazy?

  • shadow_man

    Lol, it's pretty clear that the anti-gay people are running out of arguments to condone their bigotry.

    • ludwig123

      Read the Prop 8 transcript to see how illogical, emotional,stupid the anti-marriage folks are. You may also be able to see an re-enactment of this trial (still awaiting the ruling of the court) on YOU TUBE.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=569650184 Daniel De La Harpe-Golden

    Hahahaha. What illogical ideas. Neither societal approval nor disapproval with change the rates of people who are homosexual. Allowing gay marriage will never lead to an increase in gay men. It may lead to an increase in long term, relationships and families though.

    As for the other part of their argument: Poverty is associated with huge health difficulties, why not ban that -if they were actually to hold the same reasoning they would lead to the conclusion that they would have to dramatically raise taxes and pay huge amounts of money to the poorer segments of society.

    These people really aren't trying very hard, it is clear they are not motivated by a wish to do good in the world.

  • MickeyC

    “Hurley was responding to a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report that said gay men have higher rates of HIV and syphilis than the general population.”

    And how is marriage going to change this? It might reduce it if monogamous marriage is allowed, but other than that, gay men will continue to have sex with or without marriage just as heterosexual people do.. According the the World Heath Organization more than 75% of all HIV in the world has been transmitted through heterosexual sex. By Hurley's standard, then heterosexual marriage should DEFINITELY be outlawed because of health reasons. Also, the human papiloma virus which causes some types of cancer is spread through heterosexual intercourse not to mention that all other STD's have ALWAYS been spread through heterosexual intercourse. Face it, MR. Hurley is either very uneducated or has decided that lying is about all he has left to support his agenda of discrimination against those he doesn't like.

    • ludwig123

      This is just another distortion of this kind of group which use the same propagand techiniques of the Nazi's to scare people, distort the truth et al. Among all people but heterosexual, gay and bi—those who have the highest rates of HIV are heterosexual men and women who are Hispanics or of African descent. HIV is not a gay disease (as Hurley wants you to believe as a scare tactic) it is a disease which knows no sexual orientation , gender, class, race or religion et al.
      It originated in Africa—Ugandan region —-and was transfered from Green Monkeys by Hunters who killed infected Monkeys for Meat. It was then transfered to heterosexual women who spread it with promiscous sex. Today the people who have the most incidence of HIV among them are Black African Men who are truckers and Femal African Prostitutes. They are followed in the greatest amount of incidences by those who live in Countries such as Thailand where sex trade is rampant because of the poverty of families in which the parents often sell their daughters into slave prostitution. This information comes from the WHO as well as groups such sa Amnesty International.

  • feetxxxl

    in regards to the letter about protection from homosexual influence.

    “may have been alive and normal today”…………..what a loaded word. automatically we are given the conclusion………….what follows is anticlimatic.

    a person is attracted to the same sex, 24/7 his entire life………………and all he is asking is for equal protection from those who have no idea what it means to be gay even, from the ruminations of their own mind.

    homosexuals have never been found wanting in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals. they are not less a father, friend, pastor, soldier, engineer ,teacher, neighbor, brother, etc.
    if they are engaged in society in this degree of goodness, why would then would we not rationalize that their bonded relationships that they rely on for sustenance would not be of the same goodness also. is it because we cannot detach ourselves from our mental images of anal sex something that heterosexuals have been able to engage in, except without any recrimination. images that bring up emotions so powerful that they preclude any possibility of objective reason.

    and there is some christian thing about this then its even more absurd…………….because scripture never said homosexuality was a sin, instead believers have done it by assignment of meaning in spite of the words of the verses.

    additionally homosexuality is of god because it does not come against the 2nd commandment(love your neighbor)the summation of ALL new covenant law.

    mark 9:40
    for whoever is not against us is for us.

    of course this is just more objective reason,…….the antithesis of belief system.

  • feetxxxl

    reedit…….my apologies

    a person is attracted to the same sex, 24/7 his entire life………………and all he is asking is for equal protection from those who have no idea what it means to be gay, even, from the ruminations of their own mind.

    homosexuals have never been found wanting in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals. they are not less a father, friend, pastor, soldier, engineer ,teacher, neighbor, brother, etc.
    if they are engaged in society in this degree of goodness, why would then would we then rationalize that their bonded relationships that they rely on for sustenance would not be of the same goodness also. is it because we cannot detach ourselves from our mental images of anal sex something that heterosexuals have been able to engage in, except without any recrimination. images that bring up emotions so powerful that they preclude any possibility of objective reason.

    and if there is some christian thing about homosexuals not being acceptable…..think again ……………. scripture never said homosexuality was a sin, instead believers have done it by assignment of meaning to verses in spite of their words.

    additionally, homosexuality is of god because it does not come against the 2nd commandment(love your neighbor)the summation of ALL new covenant law.

    mark 9:40
    for whoever is not against us is for us.

    of course this is just more objective reason,…….the antithesis of belief system.

    • Anonymous

      The gay community needs protection. A gay person is innocent. There is a scripture in the Bible in the Old and the New Testament that say that a man lie down with a man is an abomination. Abomination means hate, loathe intensely or disgusting. Gay sex in an anal position puts threats of fecal matter where people fixing food afterwards gives hepatitus A (a regret of a liver disease that that person can not give blood anymore to his gay community) I want to say to straights and the gay community to not have fecal sex or the innocent will have a regret. For days the fecal matter smell on your hands from cleaning after anal sex act does not go away for days, no matter how much you use detergent on your hands.
      You can protect the gay community by telling them the truth. : If you give advice that will make an innocent gay person get a “Regret”, that is tragic. That is why I took the time to tell you the truth….to “Spare” the innocent…the gay community.
      Karen in Littleton

      • Anonymous

        karen

        it is common knowledge that there is fecal matter in the vaginal area as
        well, because of the close approximation of the vagina to the anus. I have
        searched the internet for any medical information about the dangers of
        having anal sex in a monogamous relationship. there is absolutely none. all
        comments about hepatitis have to do with promiscuous sex. in the same way
        women are more susceptible cervical cancer if they indulge in promiscuous
        sex.

        your concern about anal sex is misplaced. given the number of heterosexual
        couples compared to homosexual couples, and given the number of
        heterosexual couples that practice some form of anal stimulation including
        penetration, there are probably more heterosexuals practicing anal sex than
        homosexuals. I have heard of no major outbreak of hepatitis among
        heterosexuals. I know of no religious group that is leading campaign to
        wipe out anal sex among heterosexuals because it is a sin. yet heterosexuals
        practice it without recrimination. it would seem there is definitely a
        hypocrisy here that heterosexual believers need to repent of.

        anyway I am sure that if there issue any issue about anal sex it can be
        dealt with thru safe sex practices. my understanding is that majic johnson
        is still having sex with his wife.

        the other point is……………..why are those who have vaginas and
        penises indulging anal sex. because the anus is an erogenous zone an anal
        orgasms are possible, and in some cases, with some people more intense than
        vaginal ones.

        ————————————————–

      • Anonymous

        karen

        it is common knowledge that there is fecal matter in the vaginal area as
        well, because of the close approximation of the vagina to the anus. I have
        searched the internet for any medical information about the dangers of
        having anal sex in a monogamous relationship. there is absolutely none. all
        comments about hepatitis have to do with promiscuous sex. in the same way
        women are more susceptible cervical cancer if they indulge in promiscuous
        sex.

        your concern about anal sex is misplaced. given the number of heterosexual
        couples compared to homosexual couples, and given the number of
        heterosexual couples that practice some form of anal stimulation including
        penetration, there are probably more heterosexuals practicing anal sex than
        homosexuals. I have heard of no major outbreak of hepatitis among
        heterosexuals. I know of no religious group that is leading campaign to
        wipe out anal sex among heterosexuals because it is a sin. yet heterosexuals
        practice it without recrimination. it would seem there is definitely a
        hypocrisy here that heterosexual believers need to repent of.

        anyway I am sure that if there issue any issue about anal sex it can be
        dealt with thru safe sex practices. my understanding is that majic johnson
        is still having sex with his wife.

        the other point is……………..why are those who have vaginas and
        penises indulging anal sex. because the anus is an erogenous zone an anal
        orgasms are possible, and in some cases, with some people more intense than
        vaginal ones.

        ————————————————–

    • Anonymous

      The gay community needs protection. A gay person is innocent. There is a scripture in the Bible in the Old and the New Testament that say that a man lie down with a man is an abomination. Abomination means hate, loathe intensely or disgusting. Gay sex in an anal position puts threats of fecal matter where people fixing food afterwards gives hepatitus A (a regret of a liver disease that that person can not give blood anymore to his gay community) I want to say to straights and the gay community to not have fecal sex or the innocent will have a regret. For days the fecal matter smell on your hands from cleaning after anal sex act does not go away for days, no matter how much you use detergent on your hands.
      You can protect the gay community by telling them the truth. : If you give advice that will make an innocent gay person get a “Regret”, that is tragic. That is why I took the time to tell you the truth….to “Spare” the innocent…the gay community.
      Karen in Littleton

  • ludwig123

    The people who are more dangerous to this country than any other group are Chuck Hurley and all the groups like his that usually go under names like —Save the Family, Family Values, Family Policy Research Center Tank etc. They are destructive to the US Constitution and seem to think that the Bill of Rights was written only for them and their version of it which does not include secularism—which the First Amendment clearly states —that the Government and the People have the right to be FREE of Religion and its influence in their lives and in Government. You do have the right to believe or think anything you wish —but you may not put it into practice. You have the right to worship as you please but that is not absolute because your right to worship MUST BE within the bounds of the law—that is you can not go against the law of the land simply because your religion demands it (such as 'blood atonement” for fundamentalist Mormons which violate the laws of all nations) They seem to think that every religion and everyone should have their same religious and philosophical values.
    Hurley and his crowd throughout this nation have lynched the law and civil rights of Citizens both heterosexual, gay or in between and it is high time that their agenda be brought to an abrupt halt. They are the epitomy of evil when it comes to the freedoms provided by the Bill of Rights and these Freedoms when further extended by State Laws that do not violate the US Constitution and its bill of rights. They are the sheep in wolves clothing pulling the wool over the peoples eyes just as the Roman Catholic Nazi's did when Hitler came to power in the 1930s and instigated Krystalnach and they use some of the same techiniques to get people to believe as they do –among them scare tactics, half truths, distorting the acts of one bad apple to apply to all the good apples. Hurley and his crowd are the wolves that try to sneak religion into a secular nation thus violating the first amendment ban on the separation of church and state.
    The right of anyone without regards to gender, sexual orientation etc. to form a family unit is an absolute unquestioned right by the US Constitution and affirmed by Supreme Court rulings as well as case Law. Hurley and his comrades like Phelps in Kansas should be ignored. Under new Federal Legistlation —they are criminals because of their hate programs against a sexual minorities. Minorities have rights also and they can also not only form family units but also have family values.

    • feetxxxl

      hurley, olstein, warren, robinson, moehler,and graham represent a group of believers who think the world was constructed to revolve around their belief system, handed down generationally.

      they protect this particular belief system about homosexuality with walls of censureship and unavailability. but because there is no power in these beliefs they will, eventually be forced to rescind them.

      having belief systems is part of being human. belief systems are centered on the concept and identity of “i ” “i believe this ” “i dont believe that ” . for believers, they remain that until their belief is converted to faith…………………….faith in christ, then they become centered on the spirit of christ.

      these beliefs have no part of the spirit of christ, which is evident historically, by damage they have caused, and the persecution they have promoted.

      that this negativity has been allowed persist (2000 years) is because christendom still has one foot firmly in the old covenant,………………the old covenant, something that has long since passed away.

  • MarcoLuxe

    Using Hurley's “logic”, gay women certainly should be rewarded with legal marriage because they have the lowest rates of STD infections, even lower than straights. It's those darn straights who should not be enabled by the state due to their history of riskier sexual behavior and higher numbers of STDs. And don't even bring up the huge multi-generational cost to the state and society of unplanned pregnancies that seem to be exclusive to straight couples but nearly unheard of in the gay community. With such undesirable behavior, those uncontrollable straights really shouldn't be granted any state-approval at all. As Mrs. Lovejoy would say, “won't someone please think of the [illegitimate] children!!!

  • RexMilotic

    Gay marriage does not mean gay sex. Although there are gay couples, that does not mean they're going to have relations in that way. Marriage is not the same thing as sex, but in this they're trying to play it off in the same way. The argument they're posing is invalid, and does not follow through. Also, as for the “There is no single or simple solution for reducing HIV and syphilis rates among gay and bisexual men,” said Kevin Fenton, director of the CDC’s National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD and TB Prevention. “ part, I believe a condom would be an answer. Anyways, comparing smoking damage and gay marriage (when he really means gay sex) is not an argument that can be made in this type of way.

    • Anonymous

      March 10, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) – I hate to quote statistics, but Canada’s largest gay paper XTRA recently reported that, “A group of six Canadian queers is taking on homophobia in Canada’s healthcare system by filing a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.”
      Gens Hellquist, one of the complainants, is the executive director of the Canadian Rainbow Health Coalition. He explained at length his concerns about the health status of homosexual men and women in Canada, observing: “We have one of the poorest health statuses in this country … Health issues affecting queer Canadians includes lower life expectancy than the average Canadian, suicide, higher rates of substance abuse, depression, inadequate access to care and HIV/AIDS.”
      “There are all kinds of health issues that are endemic to our community,” Hellquist continued. “We have higher rates of anal cancer in the gay male community, lesbians have higher rates of breast cancer … the reality is there is (sic) more GLBT people in this country who die of suicide each year than die from AIDS, there are more who die early deaths from substance abuse than die of HIV/AIDS. … Now that we can get married everyone assumes that we don’t have any issues any more. A lot of the deaths that occur in our community are hidden, we don’t see them. Those of us who are working on the front lines see them and I’m tired of watching my community die.”

      This seemed amazing to me, given that Hellquist appears to be arguing against the foundation of the gay rights movement. Now queer community leaders are admitting that gay sex is downright dangerous. But rather than speak about abstinence, they say they require the government to shift public health priorities away from the average population to the queer community, even though the statistics they provide demonstrate disproportionately higher spending on the gay community currently. Here are some of the stats that they cite in their human rights complaint:

      • Life expectancy of gay/bisexual men in Canada is 20 years less than the average; that is 55 years.
      • GLB people commit suicide at rates from 2 to 13.9 times more often than average.
      • GLB people have smoking rates 1.3 to 3 times higher than average.
      • GLB people have rates of alcoholism 1.4 to 7 times higher than average.
      • GLB people have rates of illicit drug use 1.6 to 19 times higher than average.
      • GLB people show rates of depression 1.8 to 3 times higher than average.
      • Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 76.1% of AIDS cases.
      • Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 54% of new HIV infections each year.
      • If one uses Statistics Canada figure of 1.7% of GLB becoming infected, that is 26 times higher than average.
      • GLB people are at a higher risk for anal cancers.
      Some gay activists say that the high levels of promiscuity and related STI’s, partner abuse, addiction, and suicide in the gay community are because gay men have delayed adolescence as a result of “coming out” late (i.e., in their 30′s), and they are promiscuous because they were late blooming teenagers. They say, “Does your gay age match your chronological age?”
      If that theory was true then the statistics would show the promiscuity of adult gay men to be similar to straight teenagers. But adult gay men have promiscuity statistics far exceeding straight teenagers. The other problem with this theory is that there is no indication that the “adolescent sex craze” period slows down after 5 years of coming out, as it does after adolescents finish their teen years. In many cases the addiction to lust increases over time. Articles in gay papers frequently ridicule gay men who don’t want exposure to HIV, and they encourage them to not curb sex.

      The culture of pushing sex down people’s throats is not working. There is nothing wrong with abstinence from sex. This goes for everyone who is not married to someone of the opposite sex. I’ve been single and chaste for many years after having left the gay community. You don’t die from not having sex. It’s not like air or water.

      Recent laws, policies and public funding aimed at reducing the rate of suicide, addiction, partner abuse, and STI’s by granting more sexual freedom have not diminished those statistics. In fact, there has been an increase since the beginning of the ‘rights’ movement in the early 70′s, and it’s getting worse, not better. In places like San Francisco and the Netherlands where gay sex has been normalized, many of these stats are worse, so I have difficulty with the theory that more freedom, money and legislation will reduce these stats. That is just not where the facts point.

      The Church talks about Natural Law and says that if something is true it will prove true in many ways. The Bible says gay sex is a problem, biology doesn’t support it, and health statistics demonstrate its problems. Why not abstain? That’s what I’m doing.

    • Anonymous

      March 10, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) – I hate to quote statistics, but Canada’s largest gay paper XTRA recently reported that, “A group of six Canadian queers is taking on homophobia in Canada’s healthcare system by filing a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.”
      Gens Hellquist, one of the complainants, is the executive director of the Canadian Rainbow Health Coalition. He explained at length his concerns about the health status of homosexual men and women in Canada, observing: “We have one of the poorest health statuses in this country … Health issues affecting queer Canadians includes lower life expectancy than the average Canadian, suicide, higher rates of substance abuse, depression, inadequate access to care and HIV/AIDS.”
      “There are all kinds of health issues that are endemic to our community,” Hellquist continued. “We have higher rates of anal cancer in the gay male community, lesbians have higher rates of breast cancer … the reality is there is (sic) more GLBT people in this country who die of suicide each year than die from AIDS, there are more who die early deaths from substance abuse than die of HIV/AIDS. … Now that we can get married everyone assumes that we don’t have any issues any more. A lot of the deaths that occur in our community are hidden, we don’t see them. Those of us who are working on the front lines see them and I’m tired of watching my community die.”

      This seemed amazing to me, given that Hellquist appears to be arguing against the foundation of the gay rights movement. Now queer community leaders are admitting that gay sex is downright dangerous. But rather than speak about abstinence, they say they require the government to shift public health priorities away from the average population to the queer community, even though the statistics they provide demonstrate disproportionately higher spending on the gay community currently. Here are some of the stats that they cite in their human rights complaint:

      • Life expectancy of gay/bisexual men in Canada is 20 years less than the average; that is 55 years.
      • GLB people commit suicide at rates from 2 to 13.9 times more often than average.
      • GLB people have smoking rates 1.3 to 3 times higher than average.
      • GLB people have rates of alcoholism 1.4 to 7 times higher than average.
      • GLB people have rates of illicit drug use 1.6 to 19 times higher than average.
      • GLB people show rates of depression 1.8 to 3 times higher than average.
      • Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 76.1% of AIDS cases.
      • Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 54% of new HIV infections each year.
      • If one uses Statistics Canada figure of 1.7% of GLB becoming infected, that is 26 times higher than average.
      • GLB people are at a higher risk for anal cancers.
      Some gay activists say that the high levels of promiscuity and related STI’s, partner abuse, addiction, and suicide in the gay community are because gay men have delayed adolescence as a result of “coming out” late (i.e., in their 30′s), and they are promiscuous because they were late blooming teenagers. They say, “Does your gay age match your chronological age?”
      If that theory was true then the statistics would show the promiscuity of adult gay men to be similar to straight teenagers. But adult gay men have promiscuity statistics far exceeding straight teenagers. The other problem with this theory is that there is no indication that the “adolescent sex craze” period slows down after 5 years of coming out, as it does after adolescents finish their teen years. In many cases the addiction to lust increases over time. Articles in gay papers frequently ridicule gay men who don’t want exposure to HIV, and they encourage them to not curb sex.

      The culture of pushing sex down people’s throats is not working. There is nothing wrong with abstinence from sex. This goes for everyone who is not married to someone of the opposite sex. I’ve been single and chaste for many years after having left the gay community. You don’t die from not having sex. It’s not like air or water.

      Recent laws, policies and public funding aimed at reducing the rate of suicide, addiction, partner abuse, and STI’s by granting more sexual freedom have not diminished those statistics. In fact, there has been an increase since the beginning of the ‘rights’ movement in the early 70′s, and it’s getting worse, not better. In places like San Francisco and the Netherlands where gay sex has been normalized, many of these stats are worse, so I have difficulty with the theory that more freedom, money and legislation will reduce these stats. That is just not where the facts point.

      The Church talks about Natural Law and says that if something is true it will prove true in many ways. The Bible says gay sex is a problem, biology doesn’t support it, and health statistics demonstrate its problems. Why not abstain? That’s what I’m doing.

  • nashvillecat

    You ignorant freaks are preaching hatred and intolerance, and now you are cloaking it in concern for health and welfare. Go home Hurley and tend to your family. Mind your own damn business and keep your eyes on your own bedroom. Your focus on other people's private lives is nothing short of vulgar and intrusive. Someone once said that God does not make anything queer. They were right. Who are you to second guess God?

    • Anonymous

      March 10, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) – I hate to quote statistics, but Canada’s largest gay paper XTRA recently reported that, “A group of six Canadian queers is taking on homophobia in Canada’s healthcare system by filing a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.”
      Gens Hellquist, one of the complainants, is the executive director of the Canadian Rainbow Health Coalition. He explained at length his concerns about the health status of homosexual men and women in Canada, observing: “We have one of the poorest health statuses in this country … Health issues affecting queer Canadians includes lower life expectancy than the average Canadian, suicide, higher rates of substance abuse, depression, inadequate access to care and HIV/AIDS.”
      “There are all kinds of health issues that are endemic to our community,” Hellquist continued. “We have higher rates of anal cancer in the gay male community, lesbians have higher rates of breast cancer … the reality is there is (sic) more GLBT people in this country who die of suicide each year than die from AIDS, there are more who die early deaths from substance abuse than die of HIV/AIDS. … Now that we can get married everyone assumes that we don’t have any issues any more. A lot of the deaths that occur in our community are hidden, we don’t see them. Those of us who are working on the front lines see them and I’m tired of watching my community die.”

      This seemed amazing to me, given that Hellquist appears to be arguing against the foundation of the gay rights movement. Now queer community leaders are admitting that gay sex is downright dangerous. But rather than speak about abstinence, they say they require the government to shift public health priorities away from the average population to the queer community, even though the statistics they provide demonstrate disproportionately higher spending on the gay community currently. Here are some of the stats that they cite in their human rights complaint:

      • Life expectancy of gay/bisexual men in Canada is 20 years less than the average; that is 55 years.
      • GLB people commit suicide at rates from 2 to 13.9 times more often than average.
      • GLB people have smoking rates 1.3 to 3 times higher than average.
      • GLB people have rates of alcoholism 1.4 to 7 times higher than average.
      • GLB people have rates of illicit drug use 1.6 to 19 times higher than average.
      • GLB people show rates of depression 1.8 to 3 times higher than average.
      • Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 76.1% of AIDS cases.
      • Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 54% of new HIV infections each year.
      • If one uses Statistics Canada figure of 1.7% of GLB becoming infected, that is 26 times higher than average.
      • GLB people are at a higher risk for anal cancers.
      Some gay activists say that the high levels of promiscuity and related STI’s, partner abuse, addiction, and suicide in the gay community are because gay men have delayed adolescence as a result of “coming out” late (i.e., in their 30′s), and they are promiscuous because they were late blooming teenagers. They say, “Does your gay age match your chronological age?”
      If that theory was true then the statistics would show the promiscuity of adult gay men to be similar to straight teenagers. But adult gay men have promiscuity statistics far exceeding straight teenagers. The other problem with this theory is that there is no indication that the “adolescent sex craze” period slows down after 5 years of coming out, as it does after adolescents finish their teen years. In many cases the addiction to lust increases over time. Articles in gay papers frequently ridicule gay men who don’t want exposure to HIV, and they encourage them to not curb sex.

      The culture of pushing sex down people’s throats is not working. There is nothing wrong with abstinence from sex. This goes for everyone who is not married to someone of the opposite sex. I’ve been single and chaste for many years after having left the gay community. You don’t die from not having sex. It’s not like air or water.

      Recent laws, policies and public funding aimed at reducing the rate of suicide, addiction, partner abuse, and STI’s by granting more sexual freedom have not diminished those statistics. In fact, there has been an increase since the beginning of the ‘rights’ movement in the early 70′s, and it’s getting worse, not better. In places like San Francisco and the Netherlands where gay sex has been normalized, many of these stats are worse, so I have difficulty with the theory that more freedom, money and legislation will reduce these stats. That is just not where the facts point.

      The Church talks about Natural Law and says that if something is true it will prove true in many ways. The Bible says gay sex is a problem, biology doesn’t support it, and health statistics demonstrate its problems. Why not abstain? That’s what I’m doing.

    • Anonymous

      March 10, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) – I hate to quote statistics, but Canada’s largest gay paper XTRA recently reported that, “A group of six Canadian queers is taking on homophobia in Canada’s healthcare system by filing a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.”
      Gens Hellquist, one of the complainants, is the executive director of the Canadian Rainbow Health Coalition. He explained at length his concerns about the health status of homosexual men and women in Canada, observing: “We have one of the poorest health statuses in this country … Health issues affecting queer Canadians includes lower life expectancy than the average Canadian, suicide, higher rates of substance abuse, depression, inadequate access to care and HIV/AIDS.”
      “There are all kinds of health issues that are endemic to our community,” Hellquist continued. “We have higher rates of anal cancer in the gay male community, lesbians have higher rates of breast cancer … the reality is there is (sic) more GLBT people in this country who die of suicide each year than die from AIDS, there are more who die early deaths from substance abuse than die of HIV/AIDS. … Now that we can get married everyone assumes that we don’t have any issues any more. A lot of the deaths that occur in our community are hidden, we don’t see them. Those of us who are working on the front lines see them and I’m tired of watching my community die.”

      This seemed amazing to me, given that Hellquist appears to be arguing against the foundation of the gay rights movement. Now queer community leaders are admitting that gay sex is downright dangerous. But rather than speak about abstinence, they say they require the government to shift public health priorities away from the average population to the queer community, even though the statistics they provide demonstrate disproportionately higher spending on the gay community currently. Here are some of the stats that they cite in their human rights complaint:

      • Life expectancy of gay/bisexual men in Canada is 20 years less than the average; that is 55 years.
      • GLB people commit suicide at rates from 2 to 13.9 times more often than average.
      • GLB people have smoking rates 1.3 to 3 times higher than average.
      • GLB people have rates of alcoholism 1.4 to 7 times higher than average.
      • GLB people have rates of illicit drug use 1.6 to 19 times higher than average.
      • GLB people show rates of depression 1.8 to 3 times higher than average.
      • Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 76.1% of AIDS cases.
      • Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 54% of new HIV infections each year.
      • If one uses Statistics Canada figure of 1.7% of GLB becoming infected, that is 26 times higher than average.
      • GLB people are at a higher risk for anal cancers.
      Some gay activists say that the high levels of promiscuity and related STI’s, partner abuse, addiction, and suicide in the gay community are because gay men have delayed adolescence as a result of “coming out” late (i.e., in their 30′s), and they are promiscuous because they were late blooming teenagers. They say, “Does your gay age match your chronological age?”
      If that theory was true then the statistics would show the promiscuity of adult gay men to be similar to straight teenagers. But adult gay men have promiscuity statistics far exceeding straight teenagers. The other problem with this theory is that there is no indication that the “adolescent sex craze” period slows down after 5 years of coming out, as it does after adolescents finish their teen years. In many cases the addiction to lust increases over time. Articles in gay papers frequently ridicule gay men who don’t want exposure to HIV, and they encourage them to not curb sex.

      The culture of pushing sex down people’s throats is not working. There is nothing wrong with abstinence from sex. This goes for everyone who is not married to someone of the opposite sex. I’ve been single and chaste for many years after having left the gay community. You don’t die from not having sex. It’s not like air or water.

      Recent laws, policies and public funding aimed at reducing the rate of suicide, addiction, partner abuse, and STI’s by granting more sexual freedom have not diminished those statistics. In fact, there has been an increase since the beginning of the ‘rights’ movement in the early 70′s, and it’s getting worse, not better. In places like San Francisco and the Netherlands where gay sex has been normalized, many of these stats are worse, so I have difficulty with the theory that more freedom, money and legislation will reduce these stats. That is just not where the facts point.

      The Church talks about Natural Law and says that if something is true it will prove true in many ways. The Bible says gay sex is a problem, biology doesn’t support it, and health statistics demonstrate its problems. Why not abstain? That’s what I’m doing.

  • cybergabi

    They should better fight for banning High Fructose Corn Syrup which is responsible for much more widespread diseases such as type II diabetes.

    Oh, wait. That's what they make their money with, right?

  • cybergabi

    They should better fight for banning High Fructose Corn Syrup which is responsible for much more widespread diseases such as type II diabetes.

    Oh, wait. That's what they make their money with, right?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/U7PHQERPCCS5KMEXW3NNPEFISQ David in Houston

    Common sense would tell you that marriage equality (same-sex marriage) would actually DECREASE the incidence of HIV and syphilis. The more people in longer-term monogamous relationships, the better it is for society. Of course, these caring and loving Christians have nothing to do with common sense do they? All they care about is “indoctrinating” everyone else into their “chosen” lifestyle. Which apparently doesn't include believing in the separation of church and state.

    • Anonymous

      Married Gay Communities in Canada are still in peril…
      March 10, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) – I hate to quote statistics, but Canada’s largest gay paper XTRA recently reported that, “A group of six Canadian queers is taking on homophobia in Canada’s healthcare system by filing a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.”
      Now that we can get married everyone assumes that we don’t have any issues any more. A lot of the deaths that occur in our community are hidden, we don’t see them. Those of us who are working on the front lines see them and I’m tired of watching my community die.”

      Now queer community leaders are admitting that gay sex is downright dangerous.
      Here are some of the stats that they cite in their human rights complaint:

      Life expectancy of gay/bisexual men in Canada is 20 years less than the average; that is 55 years.
      · GLB people commit suicide at rates from 2 to 13.9 times more often than average.
      · GLB people have smoking rates 1.3 to 3 times higher than average.
      · GLB people have rates of alcoholism 1.4 to 7 times higher than average.
      · GLB people have rates of illicit drug use 1.6 to 19 times higher than average.
      · GLB people show rates of depression 1.8 to 3 times higher than average.
      · Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 76.1% of AIDS cases.
      · Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 54% of new HIV infections each year.
      · If one uses Statistics Canada figure of 1.7% of GLB becoming infected, that is 26 times higher than average.
      · GLB people are at a higher risk for anal cancers.

      Gens Hellquist, one of the complainants, is the executive director of the Canadian Rainbow Health Coalition. He explained at length his concerns about the health status of homosexual men and women in Canada, observing: “We have one of the poorest health statuses in this country … Health issues affecting queer Canadians includes lower life expectancy than the average Canadian, suicide, higher rates of substance abuse, depression, inadequate access to care and HIV/AIDS.”
      “There are all kinds of health issues that are endemic to our community,” Hellquist continued. “We have higher rates of anal cancer in the gay male community, lesbians have higher rates of breast cancer … the reality is there is (sic) more GLBT people in this country who die of suicide each year than die from AIDS, there are more who die early deaths from substance abuse than die of HIV/AIDS. …

      God is a loving Father that hates “REGRETS”. ALL fathers that love their children hate “REGRETS”. Being gay is not a regret. Gay sex is what God does not want….(A man to lie down next to a man). He knows that your brain is a opposite of your dna. He knows that you are innocent. He knows that all humans that are in a dying world. Humans in 3rd.World countries, Mental Institutes, Orphans, people that have missing body parts, the blind, the deaf, the poor diseased that is decaying them slowly, they are all innocent and did not choose to be that way.
      Jesus said in Luke, that the Lazarus with sores all over his body (innocent one) and he would eat the bread crums of the rich ruler…when he goes to heaven Lazarus will be first and the rich ruler (who was not innocent) will be last (the roles will be reversed) Rich ruler will ask for Lazarus to dip his finger into cold water to quench the heat for him. BUT Lazarus will not be able to help him because of a gulf wide canyon between him and Lazarus. I feel for you, you are innocent. Lazarus is innocent. I love you David. If you give advice that will make an innocent gay person get a “Regret”, that is tragic. That is why I took the time to tell you the truth….to “Spare” the innocent…the gay community.
      Karen in Littleton

    • Anonymous

      Married Gay Communities in Canada are still in peril…
      March 10, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) – I hate to quote statistics, but Canada’s largest gay paper XTRA recently reported that, “A group of six Canadian queers is taking on homophobia in Canada’s healthcare system by filing a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.”
      Now that we can get married everyone assumes that we don’t have any issues any more. A lot of the deaths that occur in our community are hidden, we don’t see them. Those of us who are working on the front lines see them and I’m tired of watching my community die.”

      Now queer community leaders are admitting that gay sex is downright dangerous.
      Here are some of the stats that they cite in their human rights complaint:

      Life expectancy of gay/bisexual men in Canada is 20 years less than the average; that is 55 years.
      · GLB people commit suicide at rates from 2 to 13.9 times more often than average.
      · GLB people have smoking rates 1.3 to 3 times higher than average.
      · GLB people have rates of alcoholism 1.4 to 7 times higher than average.
      · GLB people have rates of illicit drug use 1.6 to 19 times higher than average.
      · GLB people show rates of depression 1.8 to 3 times higher than average.
      · Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 76.1% of AIDS cases.
      · Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 54% of new HIV infections each year.
      · If one uses Statistics Canada figure of 1.7% of GLB becoming infected, that is 26 times higher than average.
      · GLB people are at a higher risk for anal cancers.

      Gens Hellquist, one of the complainants, is the executive director of the Canadian Rainbow Health Coalition. He explained at length his concerns about the health status of homosexual men and women in Canada, observing: “We have one of the poorest health statuses in this country … Health issues affecting queer Canadians includes lower life expectancy than the average Canadian, suicide, higher rates of substance abuse, depression, inadequate access to care and HIV/AIDS.”
      “There are all kinds of health issues that are endemic to our community,” Hellquist continued. “We have higher rates of anal cancer in the gay male community, lesbians have higher rates of breast cancer … the reality is there is (sic) more GLBT people in this country who die of suicide each year than die from AIDS, there are more who die early deaths from substance abuse than die of HIV/AIDS. …

      God is a loving Father that hates “REGRETS”. ALL fathers that love their children hate “REGRETS”. Being gay is not a regret. Gay sex is what God does not want….(A man to lie down next to a man). He knows that your brain is a opposite of your dna. He knows that you are innocent. He knows that all humans that are in a dying world. Humans in 3rd.World countries, Mental Institutes, Orphans, people that have missing body parts, the blind, the deaf, the poor diseased that is decaying them slowly, they are all innocent and did not choose to be that way.
      Jesus said in Luke, that the Lazarus with sores all over his body (innocent one) and he would eat the bread crums of the rich ruler…when he goes to heaven Lazarus will be first and the rich ruler (who was not innocent) will be last (the roles will be reversed) Rich ruler will ask for Lazarus to dip his finger into cold water to quench the heat for him. BUT Lazarus will not be able to help him because of a gulf wide canyon between him and Lazarus. I feel for you, you are innocent. Lazarus is innocent. I love you David. If you give advice that will make an innocent gay person get a “Regret”, that is tragic. That is why I took the time to tell you the truth….to “Spare” the innocent…the gay community.
      Karen in Littleton

  • mauijack60

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  • Anonymous

    Of course, KarenCares only quotes the statistics that suits her. I am SO SICK of ultra right-wing nutcases who take away rights of others… She quotes from LifeSiteNews at that, an activist site actively promoting lies and hatred about homosexuality. Have anyone checked their website? They should: it displays an UTTER and absolute lack of regard for facts and logic. It’s ridiculous. She quotes statistics about the rates of sexual diseases but she forgets to mention that in today’s world EVERYONE can become infected by such diseases and so everyone should be responsible and take measures to protect themselves while having sex. Gay or straight. As for suicide: your hate, Karen, is what is killing us. Same thing with drugs, alcohol consumption and depression: these are all caused by hatred and rejection due to the homophobia and the lies which anti-gay activists, fuelled by anti-gay groups (have a look at the list from the SPLC) shamelessly propagate about us. It HIGH TIME we put an end to this nonsense and that LGBT individuals stand up, ONCE AND FOR ALL, for their civil rights. There can be NO compromise about this. None, and I have no patience for those seeking to deprive others of their rights based on their religion.

    And Karen: please, stop shoving your Bible down our throats. Last time I checked, it wasn’t the US constitution. Nor was it that of Canada either. Some of us chose not to believe in your Christian intolerance and homophobia we will make sure that your bigoted views do not get enshrined in the law. End of story.

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