Christian group says gay marriage more dangerous than smoking

I also agree with this , anyways each people has their own decision.

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Common sense would tell you that marriage equality (same-sex marriage) would actually DECREASE the incidence of HIV and syphilis. The more people in longer-term monogamous relationships, the better it is for society. Of course, these caring and loving Christians have nothing to do with common sense do they? All they care about is "indoctrinating" everyone else into their "chosen" lifestyle. Which apparently doesn't include believing in the separation of church and state.

They should better fight for banning High Fructose Corn Syrup which is responsible for much more widespread diseases such as type II diabetes.

Oh, wait. That's what they make their money with, right?

You ignorant freaks are preaching hatred and intolerance, and now you are cloaking it in concern for health and welfare. Go home Hurley and tend to your family. Mind your own damn business and keep your eyes on your own bedroom. Your focus on other people's private lives is nothing short of vulgar and intrusive. Someone once said that God does not make anything queer. They were right. Who are you to second guess God?

Gay marriage does not mean gay sex. Although there are gay couples, that does not mean they're going to have relations in that way. Marriage is not the same thing as sex, but in this they're trying to play it off in the same way. The argument they're posing is invalid, and does not follow through. Also, as for the “There is no single or simple solution for reducing HIV and syphilis rates among gay and bisexual men,” said Kevin Fenton, director of the CDC’s National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD and TB Prevention. “ part, I believe a condom would be an answer. Anyways, comparing smoking damage and gay marriage (when he really means gay sex) is not an argument that can be made in this type of way.

Using Hurley's "logic", gay women certainly should be rewarded with legal marriage because they have the lowest rates of STD infections, even lower than straights. It's those darn straights who should not be enabled by the state due to their history of riskier sexual behavior and higher numbers of STDs. And don't even bring up the huge multi-generational cost to the state and society of unplanned pregnancies that seem to be exclusive to straight couples but nearly unheard of in the gay community. With such undesirable behavior, those uncontrollable straights really shouldn't be granted any state-approval at all. As Mrs. Lovejoy would say, "won't someone please think of the [illegitimate] children!!!

The people who are more dangerous to this country than any other group are Chuck Hurley and all the groups like his that usually go under names like ---Save the Family, Family Values, Family Policy Research Center Tank etc. They are destructive to the US Constitution and seem to think that the Bill of Rights was written only for them and their version of it which does not include secularism---which the First Amendment clearly states ---that the Government and the People have the right to be FREE of Religion and its influence in their lives and in Government. You do have the right to believe or think anything you wish ---but you may not put it into practice. You have the right to worship as you please but that is not absolute because your right to worship MUST BE within the bounds of the law---that is you can not go against the law of the land simply because your religion demands it (such as 'blood atonement" for fundamentalist Mormons which violate the laws of all nations) They seem to think that every religion and everyone should have their same religious and philosophical values.
Hurley and his crowd throughout this nation have lynched the law and civil rights of Citizens both heterosexual, gay or in between and it is high time that their agenda be brought to an abrupt halt. They are the epitomy of evil when it comes to the freedoms provided by the Bill of Rights and these Freedoms when further extended by State Laws that do not violate the US Constitution and its bill of rights. They are the sheep in wolves clothing pulling the wool over the peoples eyes just as the Roman Catholic Nazi's did when Hitler came to power in the 1930s and instigated Krystalnach and they use some of the same techiniques to get people to believe as they do --among them scare tactics, half truths, distorting the acts of one bad apple to apply to all the good apples. Hurley and his crowd are the wolves that try to sneak religion into a secular nation thus violating the first amendment ban on the separation of church and state.
The right of anyone without regards to gender, sexual orientation etc. to form a family unit is an absolute unquestioned right by the US Constitution and affirmed by Supreme Court rulings as well as case Law. Hurley and his comrades like Phelps in Kansas should be ignored. Under new Federal Legistlation ---they are criminals because of their hate programs against a sexual minorities. Minorities have rights also and they can also not only form family units but also have family values.

hurley, olstein, warren, robinson, moehler,and graham represent a group of believers who think the world was constructed to revolve around their belief system, handed down generationally.

they protect this particular belief system about homosexuality with walls of censureship and unavailability. but because there is no power in these beliefs they will, eventually be forced to rescind them.


having belief systems is part of being human. belief systems are centered on the concept and identity of "i " "i believe this " "i dont believe that " . for believers, they remain that until their belief is converted to faith.........................faith in christ, then they become centered on the spirit of christ.

these beliefs have no part of the spirit of christ, which is evident historically, by damage they have caused, and the persecution they have promoted.

that this negativity has been allowed persist (2000 years) is because christendom still has one foot firmly in the old covenant,..................the old covenant, something that has long since passed away.

reedit.......my apologies

a person is attracted to the same sex, 24/7 his entire life..................and all he is asking is for equal protection from those who have no idea what it means to be gay, even, from the ruminations of their own mind.

homosexuals have never been found wanting in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals. they are not less a father, friend, pastor, soldier, engineer ,teacher, neighbor, brother, etc.
if they are engaged in society in this degree of goodness, why would then would we then rationalize that their bonded relationships that they rely on for sustenance would not be of the same goodness also. is it because we cannot detach ourselves from our mental images of anal sex something that heterosexuals have been able to engage in, except without any recrimination. images that bring up emotions so powerful that they preclude any possibility of objective reason.

and if there is some christian thing about homosexuals not being acceptable.....think again ................ scripture never said homosexuality was a sin, instead believers have done it by assignment of meaning to verses in spite of their words.

additionally, homosexuality is of god because it does not come against the 2nd commandment(love your neighbor)the summation of ALL new covenant law.

mark 9:40
for whoever is not against us is for us.

of course this is just more objective reason,.......the antithesis of belief system.

in regards to the letter about protection from homosexual influence.

"may have been alive and normal today"..............what a loaded word. automatically we are given the conclusion.............what follows is anticlimatic.

a person is attracted to the same sex, 24/7 his entire life..................and all he is asking is for equal protection from those who have no idea what it means to be gay even, from the ruminations of their own mind.

homosexuals have never been found wanting in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals. they are not less a father, friend, pastor, soldier, engineer ,teacher, neighbor, brother, etc.
if they are engaged in society in this degree of goodness, why would then would we not rationalize that their bonded relationships that they rely on for sustenance would not be of the same goodness also. is it because we cannot detach ourselves from our mental images of anal sex something that heterosexuals have been able to engage in, except without any recrimination. images that bring up emotions so powerful that they preclude any possibility of objective reason.

and there is some christian thing about this then its even more absurd................because scripture never said homosexuality was a sin, instead believers have done it by assignment of meaning in spite of the words of the verses.

additionally homosexuality is of god because it does not come against the 2nd commandment(love your neighbor)the summation of ALL new covenant law.

mark 9:40
for whoever is not against us is for us.

of course this is just more objective reason,.......the antithesis of belief system.

"Hurley was responding to a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report that said gay men have higher rates of HIV and syphilis than the general population."

And how is marriage going to change this? It might reduce it if monogamous marriage is allowed, but other than that, gay men will continue to have sex with or without marriage just as heterosexual people do.. According the the World Heath Organization more than 75% of all HIV in the world has been transmitted through heterosexual sex. By Hurley's standard, then heterosexual marriage should DEFINITELY be outlawed because of health reasons. Also, the human papiloma virus which causes some types of cancer is spread through heterosexual intercourse not to mention that all other STD's have ALWAYS been spread through heterosexual intercourse. Face it, MR. Hurley is either very uneducated or has decided that lying is about all he has left to support his agenda of discrimination against those he doesn't like.

This is just another distortion of this kind of group which use the same propagand techiniques of the Nazi's to scare people, distort the truth et al. Among all people but heterosexual, gay and bi---those who have the highest rates of HIV are heterosexual men and women who are Hispanics or of African descent. HIV is not a gay disease (as Hurley wants you to believe as a scare tactic) it is a disease which knows no sexual orientation , gender, class, race or religion et al.
It originated in Africa---Ugandan region ----and was transfered from Green Monkeys by Hunters who killed infected Monkeys for Meat. It was then transfered to heterosexual women who spread it with promiscous sex. Today the people who have the most incidence of HIV among them are Black African Men who are truckers and Femal African Prostitutes. They are followed in the greatest amount of incidences by those who live in Countries such as Thailand where sex trade is rampant because of the poverty of families in which the parents often sell their daughters into slave prostitution. This information comes from the WHO as well as groups such sa Amnesty International.

Hahahaha. What illogical ideas. Neither societal approval nor disapproval with change the rates of people who are homosexual. Allowing gay marriage will never lead to an increase in gay men. It may lead to an increase in long term, relationships and families though.

As for the other part of their argument: Poverty is associated with huge health difficulties, why not ban that -if they were actually to hold the same reasoning they would lead to the conclusion that they would have to dramatically raise taxes and pay huge amounts of money to the poorer segments of society.

These people really aren't trying very hard, it is clear they are not motivated by a wish to do good in the world.

Lol, it's pretty clear that the anti-gay people are running out of arguments to condone their bigotry.

Read the Prop 8 transcript to see how illogical, emotional,stupid the anti-marriage folks are. You may also be able to see an re-enactment of this trial (still awaiting the ruling of the court) on YOU TUBE.

This is the dumbest, most preposterous thing I have read in a long time. Are these people crazy?

http://www.mskcc. org/mskcc/ html/12463. cfm
This prediction tool from Sloan Kettering can assess a long-term smoker’s risk of developing lung cancer in the next 10 years based on the person’s age, sex, smoking history, and asbestos exposure.
I used a 51 yr old female who smoked for 39 years at 15 cigarettes per day. Results: Over the next 10 years if she does not smoke the risk of developing lung cancer is 2%. If she continues to smoke her risk of developing lung cancer is 3%. I guess perhaps gay activity would not be very dangerous after all then! Neither is second hand smoke!

Don't like obesity? Compare it to smoking. Don't like gay people? Compare it to smoking. Don't like salt or transfats? Compare it to smoking. The template is wearing thin. This is all propaganda based on an assault on smokers whose formula has made tremendous strides with the anti-smoking progressive movement. Please be careful about the parallels that you draw. They will fall like dominoes eventually as people become more aware.

Hurley is far more dangerous than smoking or AIDS....he infects stupid people with his fear and hate and bile. If ever there was a case for a legitimate extermination of a dangerous creature to prevent a greater harm with an appropriate necessity defense......

Right... by banning monogamous relationships and forcing gay men back into the world of permanent singledom, you will reduce the rate of infectious disease. That makes *perfect sense*. My god, do these people listen to themselves?

Do these people really not understand the difference between sex and marriage? Or perhaps they haven't quite caught on to the germ theory of disease yet. *Promiscuity* spreads HIV, etc. Marriage encourages *monogamy.* Or perhaps it's those two words they don't comprehend.

Wow-what a moron
I thank God for men like this though-each time one opens their mouth, the gay cause is furthered.

So since heterosexuals are the #1 spread of HIV, that would mean that Straight Marriage is more dangerous then Gay Marriage and Smoking??