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		<title>By: hankjmatt</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/2935/photos-postville-immigration-rally/comment-page-2#comment-19583</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you think illegals are here in Iowa? Because they were brought here because no Iowan&#039;s would put up with slave wages and not complain. Plus the plant was selling them what they thought were citizenship papers so workers thought they were becoming citizens through working there. They were exploited at every turn and how do you think they get back on there own?&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.club-penguin.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;club penguin&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think illegals are here in Iowa? Because they were brought here because no Iowan&#39;s would put up with slave wages and not complain. Plus the plant was selling them what they thought were citizenship papers so workers thought they were becoming citizens through working there. They were exploited at every turn and how do you think they get back on there own?<br /><a href="http://www.club-penguin.org/" rel="nofollow">club penguin</a></p>
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		<title>By: hankjmatt</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you think illegals are here in Iowa? Because they were brought here because no Iowan&#039;s would put up with slave wages and not complain. Plus the plant was selling them what they thought were citizenship papers so workers thought they were becoming citizens through working there. They were exploited at every turn and how do you think they get back on there own?&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.club-penguin.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;club penguin&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think illegals are here in Iowa? Because they were brought here because no Iowan&#39;s would put up with slave wages and not complain. Plus the plant was selling them what they thought were citizenship papers so workers thought they were becoming citizens through working there. They were exploited at every turn and how do you think they get back on there own?<br /><a href="http://www.club-penguin.org/" rel="nofollow">club penguin</a></p>
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		<title>By: 英文家教</title>
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		<dc:creator>英文家教</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 03:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t stop learning people.  Just keep at it and you&#039;ll get it eventually.</description>
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		<title>By: bleeding after sex when your pregnant</title>
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		<dc:creator>bleeding after sex when your pregnant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;bleeding after sex when your pregnant...&lt;/strong&gt;

While I&#039;m not sure if many people will agree with this opinion, I think your thoughts are really interesting regarding it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>bleeding after sex when your pregnant&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>While I&#8217;m not sure if many people will agree with this opinion, I think your thoughts are really interesting regarding it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 English Lessons From the Anti-Immigrant Movement &#124; No Borders and Binaries</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 English Lessons From the Anti-Immigrant Movement &#124; No Borders and Binaries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No Mas[!] Illegal Alliens &#8216;R&#8217; Fugitives From Justice[!] Go [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lynda Waddington</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/2935/photos-postville-immigration-rally/comment-page-2#comment-5775</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda Waddington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify one point I&#039;ve seen made in this thread: St. Bridget&#039;s Catholic Church in Postville is not raking money into their coffers. It&#039;s a very small congregation -- roughly 100 parishioners at Saturday mass -- that is spending money just as quickly as the money is taken in. 

I&#039;m sure that there is room for debate on if the church is doing the right thing by helping those who have been left in a lurch following the raid; however, it is not fair to imply that those working the ministry are using the crisis to feather their own nests. As one of the journalists who has been reporting on the ground in Postville and who has visited the church and parish several times, there is absolutely no evidence that the church leadership is doing anything improper with the monetary donations that have been collected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify one point I&#8217;ve seen made in this thread: St. Bridget&#8217;s Catholic Church in Postville is not raking money into their coffers. It&#8217;s a very small congregation &#8212; roughly 100 parishioners at Saturday mass &#8212; that is spending money just as quickly as the money is taken in. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that there is room for debate on if the church is doing the right thing by helping those who have been left in a lurch following the raid; however, it is not fair to imply that those working the ministry are using the crisis to feather their own nests. As one of the journalists who has been reporting on the ground in Postville and who has visited the church and parish several times, there is absolutely no evidence that the church leadership is doing anything improper with the monetary donations that have been collected.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynda Waddington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynda Waddington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify one point I&#039;ve seen made in this thread: St. Bridget&#039;s Catholic Church in Postville is not raking money into their coffers. It&#039;s a very small congregation -- roughly 100 parishioners at Saturday mass -- that is spending money just as quickly as the money is taken in. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m sure that there is room for debate on if the church is doing the right thing by helping those who have been left in a lurch following the raid; however, it is not fair to imply that those working the ministry are using the crisis to feather their own nests. As one of the journalists who has been reporting on the ground in Postville and who has visited the church and parish several times, there is absolutely no evidence that the church leadership is doing anything improper with the monetary donations that have been collected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify one point I&#39;ve seen made in this thread: St. Bridget&#39;s Catholic Church in Postville is not raking money into their coffers. It&#39;s a very small congregation &#8212; roughly 100 parishioners at Saturday mass &#8212; that is spending money just as quickly as the money is taken in. </p>
<p>I&#39;m sure that there is room for debate on if the church is doing the right thing by helping those who have been left in a lurch following the raid; however, it is not fair to imply that those working the ministry are using the crisis to feather their own nests. As one of the journalists who has been reporting on the ground in Postville and who has visited the church and parish several times, there is absolutely no evidence that the church leadership is doing anything improper with the monetary donations that have been collected.</p>
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		<title>By: NoteTaker</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/2935/photos-postville-immigration-rally/comment-page-2#comment-5774</link>
		<dc:creator>NoteTaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are several noteworthy things about this issue.

First, these aliens (not &quot;illegal immigrants,&quot; the politically-correct term) broke the law by entering the United States in a method inconsistent with proper, well-established and lawful procedures.  On that basis alone they are criminalsâ€¦period.

Second, their illegal entry is a slap in the face to those who did the right thing, both morally and legally, by following the rules, waiting, in many cases, for years.

Third, their illegal entry tells others that they have no issue with breaking the law.  After all, they simply â€œwant a better life.â€  Lawlessness begets lawlessness, and all such actions, whether committed by aliens or citizens, reinforce the idea that breaking the law is acceptable when it suits our own purposes; the ends justify the means.  Itâ€™s â€œsituation ethicsâ€ on a grand scale.

Fourth, their illegal entry speaks volumes about the type of citizen they might be should they ever actually become lawfully naturalized, which in and of itself seems doubtful.

Fifth, there is a lot of blame to spread around in this regard.  Employers, as â€œgood community citizens,â€ have a duty, both morally and legally, to see past the dollar signs and do the right thing.  Aliens also have the same moral and legal responsibility to follow the law.  To â€œwant a better lifeâ€ should not and does not include side-stepping the legality of their entry into the United States.  Further, our own government has a moral and legal mandate to enforce the law.  Their willingness to â€œlook the other wayâ€ and, in fact, work with the national governments of one or more of these aliensâ€™ native countries in aiding their illegal entry is a sad statement of how far both the Democrats and Republicans, especially at the Federal level, have sunk.

Sixth, I find it instructive that out of all the â€œPress â€˜1â€™ for Englishâ€-type phone messages Iâ€™ve heard, not one has offered their callers the option of any language other than Spanish.  Why is that?  Is that because Spanish-speaking people are incapable of learning English?  Are the Chinese, Koreans, Somalians, Italians, Germans, and many others for whom English is not a native tongue the only ones that can and do learn English?  I think not.  So, why do those who speak Spanish get special treatment?

Seventh, for all the criticism that anti-illegal immigration advocates get that they are â€œracist,â€ itâ€™s those chanting â€œLa Raza!â€ who are the real racists.  Some of them go even further by telling some to take a swim back to Europe because America, or at least parts of it, belongs to â€œLa Raza!â€  And this is a view that has been articulated for years, unbeknownst to many U.S. citizens.

Eighth, I find it especially disturbing that the Catholic Church there in Postville, along with some Jewish groups and others, supports the breaking of the law under the guise of how we all need to â€œlove your neighbor,â€ as if to â€œlove your neighborâ€ and to be lawful are mutually exclusive.  Iâ€™m not sure what the church there would have to gain other than more money rolling into their coffers.  Perhaps thatâ€™s not the case, but, following the money does tend to pull all sorts of skeletons out of the closets.  For their part, the Jews who participated in supporting those entering, living and working in the United States illegally, the only answer I can find is, there again, that it has to do with money.  It makes sense to me as the Agriprocessors plant in question is owned by Jews.  And like any business, lower labor costs can only add to the bottom line.

Shame on all of them, aliens included, I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several noteworthy things about this issue.</p>
<p>First, these aliens (not &#8220;illegal immigrants,&#8221; the politically-correct term) broke the law by entering the United States in a method inconsistent with proper, well-established and lawful procedures.  On that basis alone they are criminalsâ€¦period.</p>
<p>Second, their illegal entry is a slap in the face to those who did the right thing, both morally and legally, by following the rules, waiting, in many cases, for years.</p>
<p>Third, their illegal entry tells others that they have no issue with breaking the law.  After all, they simply â€œwant a better life.â€  Lawlessness begets lawlessness, and all such actions, whether committed by aliens or citizens, reinforce the idea that breaking the law is acceptable when it suits our own purposes; the ends justify the means.  Itâ€™s â€œsituation ethicsâ€ on a grand scale.</p>
<p>Fourth, their illegal entry speaks volumes about the type of citizen they might be should they ever actually become lawfully naturalized, which in and of itself seems doubtful.</p>
<p>Fifth, there is a lot of blame to spread around in this regard.  Employers, as â€œgood community citizens,â€ have a duty, both morally and legally, to see past the dollar signs and do the right thing.  Aliens also have the same moral and legal responsibility to follow the law.  To â€œwant a better lifeâ€ should not and does not include side-stepping the legality of their entry into the United States.  Further, our own government has a moral and legal mandate to enforce the law.  Their willingness to â€œlook the other wayâ€ and, in fact, work with the national governments of one or more of these aliensâ€™ native countries in aiding their illegal entry is a sad statement of how far both the Democrats and Republicans, especially at the Federal level, have sunk.</p>
<p>Sixth, I find it instructive that out of all the â€œPress â€˜1â€™ for Englishâ€-type phone messages Iâ€™ve heard, not one has offered their callers the option of any language other than Spanish.  Why is that?  Is that because Spanish-speaking people are incapable of learning English?  Are the Chinese, Koreans, Somalians, Italians, Germans, and many others for whom English is not a native tongue the only ones that can and do learn English?  I think not.  So, why do those who speak Spanish get special treatment?</p>
<p>Seventh, for all the criticism that anti-illegal immigration advocates get that they are â€œracist,â€ itâ€™s those chanting â€œLa Raza!â€ who are the real racists.  Some of them go even further by telling some to take a swim back to Europe because America, or at least parts of it, belongs to â€œLa Raza!â€  And this is a view that has been articulated for years, unbeknownst to many U.S. citizens.</p>
<p>Eighth, I find it especially disturbing that the Catholic Church there in Postville, along with some Jewish groups and others, supports the breaking of the law under the guise of how we all need to â€œlove your neighbor,â€ as if to â€œlove your neighborâ€ and to be lawful are mutually exclusive.  Iâ€™m not sure what the church there would have to gain other than more money rolling into their coffers.  Perhaps thatâ€™s not the case, but, following the money does tend to pull all sorts of skeletons out of the closets.  For their part, the Jews who participated in supporting those entering, living and working in the United States illegally, the only answer I can find is, there again, that it has to do with money.  It makes sense to me as the Agriprocessors plant in question is owned by Jews.  And like any business, lower labor costs can only add to the bottom line.</p>
<p>Shame on all of them, aliens included, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: NoteTaker</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are several noteworthy things about this issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, these aliens (not &quot;illegal immigrants,&quot; the politically-correct term) broke the law by entering the United States in a method inconsistent with proper, well-established and lawful procedures.  On that basis alone they are criminalsâ€¦period.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second, their illegal entry is a slap in the face to those who did the right thing, both morally and legally, by following the rules, waiting, in many cases, for years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Third, their illegal entry tells others that they have no issue with breaking the law.  After all, they simply â€œwant a better life.â€  Lawlessness begets lawlessness, and all such actions, whether committed by aliens or citizens, reinforce the idea that breaking the law is acceptable when it suits our own purposes; the ends justify the means.  Itâ€™s â€œsituation ethicsâ€ on a grand scale.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fourth, their illegal entry speaks volumes about the type of citizen they might be should they ever actually become lawfully naturalized, which in and of itself seems doubtful.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fifth, there is a lot of blame to spread around in this regard.  Employers, as â€œgood community citizens,â€ have a duty, both morally and legally, to see past the dollar signs and do the right thing.  Aliens also have the same moral and legal responsibility to follow the law.  To â€œwant a better lifeâ€ should not and does not include side-stepping the legality of their entry into the United States.  Further, our own government has a moral and legal mandate to enforce the law.  Their willingness to â€œlook the other wayâ€ and, in fact, work with the national governments of one or more of these aliensâ€™ native countries in aiding their illegal entry is a sad statement of how far both the Democrats and Republicans, especially at the Federal level, have sunk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sixth, I find it instructive that out of all the â€œPress â€˜1â€™ for Englishâ€-type phone messages Iâ€™ve heard, not one has offered their callers the option of any language other than Spanish.  Why is that?  Is that because Spanish-speaking people are incapable of learning English?  Are the Chinese, Koreans, Somalians, Italians, Germans, and many others for whom English is not a native tongue the only ones that can and do learn English?  I think not.  So, why do those who speak Spanish get special treatment?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seventh, for all the criticism that anti-illegal immigration advocates get that they are â€œracist,â€ itâ€™s those chanting â€œLa Raza!â€ who are the real racists.  Some of them go even further by telling some to take a swim back to Europe because America, or at least parts of it, belongs to â€œLa Raza!â€  And this is a view that has been articulated for years, unbeknownst to many U.S. citizens.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Eighth, I find it especially disturbing that the Catholic Church there in Postville, along with some Jewish groups and others, supports the breaking of the law under the guise of how we all need to â€œlove your neighbor,â€ as if to â€œlove your neighborâ€ and to be lawful are mutually exclusive.  Iâ€™m not sure what the church there would have to gain other than more money rolling into their coffers.  Perhaps thatâ€™s not the case, but, following the money does tend to pull all sorts of skeletons out of the closets.  For their part, the Jews who participated in supporting those entering, living and working in the United States illegally, the only answer I can find is, there again, that it has to do with money.  It makes sense to me as the Agriprocessors plant in question is owned by Jews.  And like any business, lower labor costs can only add to the bottom line.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shame on all of them, aliens included, I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several noteworthy things about this issue.</p>
<p>First, these aliens (not &#8220;illegal immigrants,&#8221; the politically-correct term) broke the law by entering the United States in a method inconsistent with proper, well-established and lawful procedures.  On that basis alone they are criminalsâ€¦period.</p>
<p>Second, their illegal entry is a slap in the face to those who did the right thing, both morally and legally, by following the rules, waiting, in many cases, for years.</p>
<p>Third, their illegal entry tells others that they have no issue with breaking the law.  After all, they simply â€œwant a better life.â€  Lawlessness begets lawlessness, and all such actions, whether committed by aliens or citizens, reinforce the idea that breaking the law is acceptable when it suits our own purposes; the ends justify the means.  Itâ€™s â€œsituation ethicsâ€ on a grand scale.</p>
<p>Fourth, their illegal entry speaks volumes about the type of citizen they might be should they ever actually become lawfully naturalized, which in and of itself seems doubtful.</p>
<p>Fifth, there is a lot of blame to spread around in this regard.  Employers, as â€œgood community citizens,â€ have a duty, both morally and legally, to see past the dollar signs and do the right thing.  Aliens also have the same moral and legal responsibility to follow the law.  To â€œwant a better lifeâ€ should not and does not include side-stepping the legality of their entry into the United States.  Further, our own government has a moral and legal mandate to enforce the law.  Their willingness to â€œlook the other wayâ€ and, in fact, work with the national governments of one or more of these aliensâ€™ native countries in aiding their illegal entry is a sad statement of how far both the Democrats and Republicans, especially at the Federal level, have sunk.</p>
<p>Sixth, I find it instructive that out of all the â€œPress â€˜1â€™ for Englishâ€-type phone messages Iâ€™ve heard, not one has offered their callers the option of any language other than Spanish.  Why is that?  Is that because Spanish-speaking people are incapable of learning English?  Are the Chinese, Koreans, Somalians, Italians, Germans, and many others for whom English is not a native tongue the only ones that can and do learn English?  I think not.  So, why do those who speak Spanish get special treatment?</p>
<p>Seventh, for all the criticism that anti-illegal immigration advocates get that they are â€œracist,â€ itâ€™s those chanting â€œLa Raza!â€ who are the real racists.  Some of them go even further by telling some to take a swim back to Europe because America, or at least parts of it, belongs to â€œLa Raza!â€  And this is a view that has been articulated for years, unbeknownst to many U.S. citizens.</p>
<p>Eighth, I find it especially disturbing that the Catholic Church there in Postville, along with some Jewish groups and others, supports the breaking of the law under the guise of how we all need to â€œlove your neighbor,â€ as if to â€œlove your neighborâ€ and to be lawful are mutually exclusive.  Iâ€™m not sure what the church there would have to gain other than more money rolling into their coffers.  Perhaps thatâ€™s not the case, but, following the money does tend to pull all sorts of skeletons out of the closets.  For their part, the Jews who participated in supporting those entering, living and working in the United States illegally, the only answer I can find is, there again, that it has to do with money.  It makes sense to me as the Agriprocessors plant in question is owned by Jews.  And like any business, lower labor costs can only add to the bottom line.</p>
<p>Shame on all of them, aliens included, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: g. blakeman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; We are going to dominate this country.&quot;  Edward James Olmo, addressing a large Hispanic group on Aug.5th. 2001.  There are about 600 million people south of the U.S border. The ones that coming here do not want to assimilate. They are extending their race and culture north and intend by strength of numbers to challenge the current majority for cultural and political supremacy. They are not people who have much aptitude for negotiation; but rather are quick to resort to violence. There will come a time when our children will have to suffer for our negligense. My best feelings go out to all of the Patriots who care enough about our home to resist the invasion. There is much more sympathy with your stance than is apparent from the apathy that is so prevalent. &quot; One committed person is an army&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; We are going to dominate this country.&#8221;  Edward James Olmo, addressing a large Hispanic group on Aug.5th. 2001.  There are about 600 million people south of the U.S border. The ones that coming here do not want to assimilate. They are extending their race and culture north and intend by strength of numbers to challenge the current majority for cultural and political supremacy. They are not people who have much aptitude for negotiation; but rather are quick to resort to violence. There will come a time when our children will have to suffer for our negligense. My best feelings go out to all of the Patriots who care enough about our home to resist the invasion. There is much more sympathy with your stance than is apparent from the apathy that is so prevalent. &#8221; One committed person is an army&#8221;</p>
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