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		<title>By: dellmar</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Response to Impact Contractors &amp; Pander&lt;/strong&gt; &quot;Impact Contractors&quot; I agree with many of his/her points... Yes, in most cases minority contractors are traditionally non union.&#160; Hey, lets go a step further and talk about why?&#160; Unions are the working man&#039;s friend... right?&#160; If you know anything about our country history you will know that african americans have always had challenges breaking into unions.&#160; Let me be the first to say that unions are not all the same.&#160; There is a big difference from the teachers union and construction unions.&#160; To the person who wrote &quot;Impact Contractors&quot; did you know that the Association of General Contractors (AGC &quot;big union&quot;) is against the Disparity Study in Davenport.&#160; Why is that... because it is not business as usual.&#160; It is the first step in shaking up the way the construction pie is cut.&#160; This is the first study of this nature to be done in this state.&#160; You ever wonder why the Kansas City, Chicago, Minnapolis, St. Louis cities of the world are doing what we should be doing in this state with regard to supporting diversity on public funded construction sites.&#160; The answer is they have done this same study 10 to 15 years ago.&#160; Let me also say that the US Supreme Court requires agencies wanting to pursue agressive affirmative action programs like maditory goals (that would require minorities to be hired and contracted with) to do this type of study.&#160; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;To person who wrote &quot;Impact Contractors&quot; I disagree with one thing however...&quot;Impact Agreements&quot; do require union labor and I agree it is not fair, but do not for one moment accept that cities benefit from them.&#160; You know as I know, that union labor comes with union rules and that means that guys and gals who are in one job category can not work in another even if that means they have to stand around and wait until someone else can pick the lumber and take it to their work area.&#160; The stories go on... and maybe one could argue that non companies are not more cost efficient, but the fact is the way construction unions use rules on their work sites effect cost and these cost impact projects and in return effects the value of our taxpayers dollars used to fund these projects.&#160; It is our fault (as citizens) if we let the union lobby out weight the importance and value of working class small business owners, taxpayer and citizens. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is easy to put all your frustration in one pot, but that is just not the way to change the world or at least change the way business in done around the state.&#160; We have to fight for our politicans and political parties to break them away from taking money from the lobbies.&#160; Honestly how can we expect our democratic party to hold construction unions accountable when many of their campaign contributions come from these same unions.&#160; Should we go Republican... the problem still exist.&#160; We need to focus on issue, we need to work with both parties and insure that our community is active in the issues rather than the party.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;To the person who wrote &quot;Pandering&quot; I find your comments the most troubling of all, because I know our community doesn&#039;t have a chance if we don&#039;t have you on board.&#160; This work may seem like a bunch of silly blather, but let me share with you that there are men and women that have placed there lives and livelyhood on the promise that not only will the city come through with a fairshare of contracting oppertunity, but that finally the Iowa Department of Transportation will do the same.&#160; That other larger cities in the state will do the same.&#160; You want to know &quot;What does this really mean in practical terms?&quot;&#160; It means that we can finally hurdle a barrier that was placed on our community&#039;s business people 20 years ago when we (as citizen) allowed affirmative action policies to be villianized and scaled back under the hood of reverse discrimination.&#160; To the person who wrote &quot;Pandering&quot; can&#039;t you see... that is what they want, they pray on in-fighting and they hope that we insult each other because it keeps us from the truth.&#160; Be my keeper and let me be yours.&#160; This study is Big News in Daveport and I won&#039;t rest until it is Big News across the state.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I Challege you and anyone else who is interested to learn more about this study and why it is different than any other study to call the City of Davenport at 563-326-6165. Ask for the Affirmative Action Officer as I am sure he shares my resolve. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Response to Impact Contractors &#038; Pander</strong> &#8220;Impact Contractors&#8221; I agree with many of his/her points&#8230; Yes, in most cases minority contractors are traditionally non union.&nbsp; Hey, lets go a step further and talk about why?&nbsp; Unions are the working man&#39;s friend&#8230; right?&nbsp; If you know anything about our country history you will know that african americans have always had challenges breaking into unions.&nbsp; Let me be the first to say that unions are not all the same.&nbsp; There is a big difference from the teachers union and construction unions.&nbsp; To the person who wrote &#8220;Impact Contractors&#8221; did you know that the Association of General Contractors (AGC &#8220;big union&#8221;) is against the Disparity Study in Davenport.&nbsp; Why is that&#8230; because it is not business as usual.&nbsp; It is the first step in shaking up the way the construction pie is cut.&nbsp; This is the first study of this nature to be done in this state.&nbsp; You ever wonder why the Kansas City, Chicago, Minnapolis, St. Louis cities of the world are doing what we should be doing in this state with regard to supporting diversity on public funded construction sites.&nbsp; The answer is they have done this same study 10 to 15 years ago.&nbsp; Let me also say that the US Supreme Court requires agencies wanting to pursue agressive affirmative action programs like maditory goals (that would require minorities to be hired and contracted with) to do this type of study.&nbsp;
<p>To person who wrote &#8220;Impact Contractors&#8221; I disagree with one thing however&#8230;&#8221;Impact Agreements&#8221; do require union labor and I agree it is not fair, but do not for one moment accept that cities benefit from them.&nbsp; You know as I know, that union labor comes with union rules and that means that guys and gals who are in one job category can not work in another even if that means they have to stand around and wait until someone else can pick the lumber and take it to their work area.&nbsp; The stories go on&#8230; and maybe one could argue that non companies are not more cost efficient, but the fact is the way construction unions use rules on their work sites effect cost and these cost impact projects and in return effects the value of our taxpayers dollars used to fund these projects.&nbsp; It is our fault (as citizens) if we let the union lobby out weight the importance and value of working class small business owners, taxpayer and citizens. </p>
<p>It is easy to put all your frustration in one pot, but that is just not the way to change the world or at least change the way business in done around the state.&nbsp; We have to fight for our politicans and political parties to break them away from taking money from the lobbies.&nbsp; Honestly how can we expect our democratic party to hold construction unions accountable when many of their campaign contributions come from these same unions.&nbsp; Should we go Republican&#8230; the problem still exist.&nbsp; We need to focus on issue, we need to work with both parties and insure that our community is active in the issues rather than the party.</p>
<p>To the person who wrote &#8220;Pandering&#8221; I find your comments the most troubling of all, because I know our community doesn&#39;t have a chance if we don&#39;t have you on board.&nbsp; This work may seem like a bunch of silly blather, but let me share with you that there are men and women that have placed there lives and livelyhood on the promise that not only will the city come through with a fairshare of contracting oppertunity, but that finally the Iowa Department of Transportation will do the same.&nbsp; That other larger cities in the state will do the same.&nbsp; You want to know &#8220;What does this really mean in practical terms?&#8221;&nbsp; It means that we can finally hurdle a barrier that was placed on our community&#39;s business people 20 years ago when we (as citizen) allowed affirmative action policies to be villianized and scaled back under the hood of reverse discrimination.&nbsp; To the person who wrote &#8220;Pandering&#8221; can&#39;t you see&#8230; that is what they want, they pray on in-fighting and they hope that we insult each other because it keeps us from the truth.&nbsp; Be my keeper and let me be yours.&nbsp; This study is Big News in Daveport and I won&#39;t rest until it is Big News across the state.&nbsp; </p>
<p>I Challege you and anyone else who is interested to learn more about this study and why it is different than any other study to call the City of Davenport at 563-326-6165. Ask for the Affirmative Action Officer as I am sure he shares my resolve. </p>
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		<title>By: cna you spell pander?</title>
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		<dc:creator>cna you spell pander?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;can you spell pander?&lt;/strong&gt; The goal is to get blacks focused on their most troubling areas of concern, create proposals to study or fix the problems and submit written proposals to the commission. The commission will seek money from the Iowa Legislature to pay for the projects, he said.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;---&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;R U Kidding me?&#160; What a bunch of silly blather.&#160; What does this really mean in practical terms? It&#039;s just another money grab that will bear no fruit. How many studies?&#160; How many proposals?&#160; How many commissions on status?&#160; How much more taxpayer money?&#160; What is that magic bullet?&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are current barometers.&#160; Just get up off the couch, get your high school diploma, don&#039;t commit crimes, don&#039;t do drugs, follow the rules, be polite.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s your study.&#160; Save the money.&#160; What a bunch of lazy asses trying to make it someone elses fault.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>can you spell pander?</strong> The goal is to get blacks focused on their most troubling areas of concern, create proposals to study or fix the problems and submit written proposals to the commission. The commission will seek money from the Iowa Legislature to pay for the projects, he said.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>R U Kidding me?&nbsp; What a bunch of silly blather.&nbsp; What does this really mean in practical terms? It&#39;s just another money grab that will bear no fruit. How many studies?&nbsp; How many proposals?&nbsp; How many commissions on status?&nbsp; How much more taxpayer money?&nbsp; What is that magic bullet?
<p>Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are current barometers.&nbsp; Just get up off the couch, get your high school diploma, don&#39;t commit crimes, don&#39;t do drugs, follow the rules, be polite.</p>
<p>There&#39;s your study.&nbsp; Save the money.&nbsp; What a bunch of lazy asses trying to make it someone elses fault.</p>
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		<title>By: ialawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>ialawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Impact contracts&lt;/strong&gt; Minority contractors are traditionally non union.&#160; Large municipal contracts often have &quot;Impact Agreements&quot; requiring union labor.&#160; These agreements equally benefit both local unions and the cities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Impact contracts</strong> Minority contractors are traditionally non union.&nbsp; Large municipal contracts often have &#8220;Impact Agreements&#8221; requiring union labor.&nbsp; These agreements equally benefit both local unions and the cities.</p>
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		<title>By: ialawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>ialawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Impact contracts&lt;/strong&gt; Minority contractors are traditionally non union.&#160; Large municipal contracts often have &quot;Impact Agreements&quot; requiring union labor.&#160; These agreements equally benefit both local unions and the cities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Impact contracts</strong> Minority contractors are traditionally non union.&nbsp; Large municipal contracts often have &#8220;Impact Agreements&#8221; requiring union labor.&nbsp; These agreements equally benefit both local unions and the cities.</p>
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		<title>By: cna you spell pander?</title>
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		<dc:creator>cna you spell pander?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;can you spell pander?&lt;/strong&gt; The goal is to get blacks focused on their most troubling areas of concern, create proposals to study or fix the problems and submit written proposals to the commission. The commission will seek money from the Iowa Legislature to pay for the projects, he said.&lt;br&gt;
---&lt;br&gt;
R U Kidding me?&#160; What a bunch of silly blather.&#160; What does this really mean in practical terms? It&#039;s just another money grab that will bear no fruit. How many studies?&#160; How many proposals?&#160; How many commissions on status?&#160; How much more taxpayer money?&#160; What is that magic bullet?&lt;p&gt;
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are current barometers.&#160; Just get up off the couch, get your high school diploma, don&#039;t commit crimes, don&#039;t do drugs, follow the rules, be polite.&lt;p&gt;
There&#039;s your study.&#160; Save the money.&#160; What a bunch of lazy asses trying to make it someone elses fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>can you spell pander?</strong> The goal is to get blacks focused on their most troubling areas of concern, create proposals to study or fix the problems and submit written proposals to the commission. The commission will seek money from the Iowa Legislature to pay for the projects, he said.<br />
&#8212;<br />
R U Kidding me?&nbsp; What a bunch of silly blather.&nbsp; What does this really mean in practical terms? It&#8217;s just another money grab that will bear no fruit. How many studies?&nbsp; How many proposals?&nbsp; How many commissions on status?&nbsp; How much more taxpayer money?&nbsp; What is that magic bullet?
<p>
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are current barometers.&nbsp; Just get up off the couch, get your high school diploma, don&#8217;t commit crimes, don&#8217;t do drugs, follow the rules, be polite.</p>
<p>
There&#8217;s your study.&nbsp; Save the money.&nbsp; What a bunch of lazy asses trying to make it someone elses fault.</p>
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		<title>By: dellmar</title>
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		<dc:creator>dellmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Response to Impact Contractors &amp; Pander&lt;/strong&gt; &quot;Impact Contractors&quot; I agree with many of his/her points... Yes, in most cases minority contractors are traditionally non union.&#160; Hey, lets go a step further and talk about why?&#160; Unions are the working man&#039;s friend... right?&#160; If you know anything about our country history you will know that african americans have always had challenges breaking into unions.&#160; Let me be the first to say that unions are not all the same.&#160; There is a big difference from the teachers union and construction unions.&#160; To the person who wrote &quot;Impact Contractors&quot; did you know that the Association of General Contractors (AGC &quot;big union&quot;) is against the Disparity Study in Davenport.&#160; Why is that... because it is not business as usual.&#160; It is the first step in shaking up the way the construction pie is cut.&#160; This is the first study of this nature to be done in this state.&#160; You ever wonder why the Kansas City, Chicago, Minnapolis, St. Louis cities of the world are doing what we should be doing in this state with regard to supporting diversity on public funded construction sites.&#160; The answer is they have done this same study 10 to 15 years ago.&#160; Let me also say that the US Supreme Court requires agencies wanting to pursue agressive affirmative action programs like maditory goals (that would require minorities to be hired and contracted with) to do this type of study.&#160; &lt;p&gt;
To person who wrote &quot;Impact Contractors&quot; I disagree with one thing however...&quot;Impact Agreements&quot; do require union labor and I agree it is not fair, but do not for one moment accept that cities benefit from them.&#160; You know as I know, that union labor comes with union rules and that means that guys and gals who are in one job category can not work in another even if that means they have to stand around and wait until someone else can pick the lumber and take it to their work area.&#160; The stories go on... and maybe one could argue that non companies are not more cost efficient, but the fact is the way construction unions use rules on their work sites effect cost and these cost impact projects and in return effects the value of our taxpayers dollars used to fund these projects.&#160; It is our fault (as citizens) if we let the union lobby out weight the importance and value of working class small business owners, taxpayer and citizens. &lt;p&gt;
It is easy to put all your frustration in one pot, but that is just not the way to change the world or at least change the way business in done around the state.&#160; We have to fight for our politicans and political parties to break them away from taking money from the lobbies.&#160; Honestly how can we expect our democratic party to hold construction unions accountable when many of their campaign contributions come from these same unions.&#160; Should we go Republican... the problem still exist.&#160; We need to focus on issue, we need to work with both parties and insure that our community is active in the issues rather than the party.&lt;p&gt;
To the person who wrote &quot;Pandering&quot; I find your comments the most troubling of all, because I know our community doesn&#039;t have a chance if we don&#039;t have you on board.&#160; This work may seem like a bunch of silly blather, but let me share with you that there are men and women that have placed there lives and livelyhood on the promise that not only will the city come through with a fairshare of contracting oppertunity, but that finally the Iowa Department of Transportation will do the same.&#160; That other larger cities in the state will do the same.&#160; You want to know &quot;What does this really mean in practical terms?&quot;&#160; It means that we can finally hurdle a barrier that was placed on our community&#039;s business people 20 years ago when we (as citizen) allowed affirmative action policies to be villianized and scaled back under the hood of reverse discrimination.&#160; To the person who wrote &quot;Pandering&quot; can&#039;t you see... that is what they want, they pray on in-fighting and they hope that we insult each other because it keeps us from the truth.&#160; Be my keeper and let me be yours.&#160; This study is Big News in Daveport and I won&#039;t rest until it is Big News across the state.&#160; &lt;p&gt;
I Challege you and anyone else who is interested to learn more about this study and why it is different than any other study to call the City of Davenport at 563-326-6165. Ask for the Affirmative Action Officer as I am sure he shares my resolve. &lt;p&gt;&#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Response to Impact Contractors &#038; Pander</strong> &#8220;Impact Contractors&#8221; I agree with many of his/her points&#8230; Yes, in most cases minority contractors are traditionally non union.&nbsp; Hey, lets go a step further and talk about why?&nbsp; Unions are the working man&#8217;s friend&#8230; right?&nbsp; If you know anything about our country history you will know that african americans have always had challenges breaking into unions.&nbsp; Let me be the first to say that unions are not all the same.&nbsp; There is a big difference from the teachers union and construction unions.&nbsp; To the person who wrote &#8220;Impact Contractors&#8221; did you know that the Association of General Contractors (AGC &#8220;big union&#8221;) is against the Disparity Study in Davenport.&nbsp; Why is that&#8230; because it is not business as usual.&nbsp; It is the first step in shaking up the way the construction pie is cut.&nbsp; This is the first study of this nature to be done in this state.&nbsp; You ever wonder why the Kansas City, Chicago, Minnapolis, St. Louis cities of the world are doing what we should be doing in this state with regard to supporting diversity on public funded construction sites.&nbsp; The answer is they have done this same study 10 to 15 years ago.&nbsp; Let me also say that the US Supreme Court requires agencies wanting to pursue agressive affirmative action programs like maditory goals (that would require minorities to be hired and contracted with) to do this type of study.&nbsp;
<p>
To person who wrote &#8220;Impact Contractors&#8221; I disagree with one thing however&#8230;&#8221;Impact Agreements&#8221; do require union labor and I agree it is not fair, but do not for one moment accept that cities benefit from them.&nbsp; You know as I know, that union labor comes with union rules and that means that guys and gals who are in one job category can not work in another even if that means they have to stand around and wait until someone else can pick the lumber and take it to their work area.&nbsp; The stories go on&#8230; and maybe one could argue that non companies are not more cost efficient, but the fact is the way construction unions use rules on their work sites effect cost and these cost impact projects and in return effects the value of our taxpayers dollars used to fund these projects.&nbsp; It is our fault (as citizens) if we let the union lobby out weight the importance and value of working class small business owners, taxpayer and citizens. </p>
<p>
It is easy to put all your frustration in one pot, but that is just not the way to change the world or at least change the way business in done around the state.&nbsp; We have to fight for our politicans and political parties to break them away from taking money from the lobbies.&nbsp; Honestly how can we expect our democratic party to hold construction unions accountable when many of their campaign contributions come from these same unions.&nbsp; Should we go Republican&#8230; the problem still exist.&nbsp; We need to focus on issue, we need to work with both parties and insure that our community is active in the issues rather than the party.</p>
<p>
To the person who wrote &#8220;Pandering&#8221; I find your comments the most troubling of all, because I know our community doesn&#8217;t have a chance if we don&#8217;t have you on board.&nbsp; This work may seem like a bunch of silly blather, but let me share with you that there are men and women that have placed there lives and livelyhood on the promise that not only will the city come through with a fairshare of contracting oppertunity, but that finally the Iowa Department of Transportation will do the same.&nbsp; That other larger cities in the state will do the same.&nbsp; You want to know &#8220;What does this really mean in practical terms?&#8221;&nbsp; It means that we can finally hurdle a barrier that was placed on our community&#8217;s business people 20 years ago when we (as citizen) allowed affirmative action policies to be villianized and scaled back under the hood of reverse discrimination.&nbsp; To the person who wrote &#8220;Pandering&#8221; can&#8217;t you see&#8230; that is what they want, they pray on in-fighting and they hope that we insult each other because it keeps us from the truth.&nbsp; Be my keeper and let me be yours.&nbsp; This study is Big News in Daveport and I won&#8217;t rest until it is Big News across the state.&nbsp; </p>
<p>
I Challege you and anyone else who is interested to learn more about this study and why it is different than any other study to call the City of Davenport at 563-326-6165. Ask for the Affirmative Action Officer as I am sure he shares my resolve. </p>
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