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King: Same-sex marriage a ‘socialist concept’

By Jason Hancock | 09.24.09 | 10:04 am

Same-sex marriage is not only a radical social idea, it is a “purely socialist concept” and is part of a broader push by to turn the United States into a socialist country, U.S. Rep. Steve King said Wednesday during an interview with a conservative talk radio station.

U.S. Rep. Steve King

King was being interviewed in regards to what he believes is the impact of the Iowa Supreme Court’s decision legalizing same-sex marriage. He repeated his earlier assertion that the Hawkeye State will become a “Mecca for same-sex marriage,” then explained that Iowans do not have “a very good understanding of what same-sex marriage does to the overall institution of marriage.”

In order for a socialist society to come about, the foundation of society, i.e., marriage, must be destroyed, King said.

“If there’s a push for a socialist society, a society where the foundations of individual rights and liberties are undermined and everybody is thrown together living collectively off of one pot of resources earned by everyone, this is one of the goals they’d have to go to, is same sex marriage, because it has to plow through marriage in order to get to their goal,” King said. “They want public affirmation. They want access to public funds and resources. Eventually all those resources will be pooled because that’s the direction we’re going. And not only is it a radical social idea, it is a purely socialist concept in the final analysis.”

However, as the Raw Story’s Daniel Tencer points out, King manages to ignore historical fact in his assessment of socialism and homosexuality.

In the “socialist paradise” known as the Soviet Union, Josef Stalin criminalized homosexuality with a punishment of up to five years of hard labor. Some historians have argued that many individuals accused of pedophilia in the Soviet Union were in fact engaged in adult homosexual relationships.

Sweden, long considered a social democracy, is today a leader in the gay rights movement; but in 1979, it declared homosexuality an “illness.” Transvestitism was only de-listed as an illness in Sweden in 2008.

King also defended former Sen. Rick Santorum,R-Pa., who said legal same sex marriages would open the door to legal polygamy or bestiality. Santorum will be speaking in Iowa Oct. 1.

(h/t Think Progress)

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Comments

jrship

This kind of bizarre, paranoid, conspiratorial ideation is an indicator of meth abuse.

rob333

All pornography is homosexual.

jakeH

Do you even think about what you write? Seriously, I'll assure you that considering reality isn't all that scary. Until then, you an your tin hat should probably go back to the corner.

rob333

Pornography and homosexuality share the same inward driven, narcissistic, selfish motivations. They are the same in that regard, and in the destruction that impart. God is about love, but about the outward expression to other people. Pornography and homosexuality are particularly deceptive in that they promote “love” but of the selfish, narcissistic type that isn't God's love. Homosexual culture mostly is a concentration of this.

http://onanov.com Donald Baxter

I have “worked” in homosexual communities as well–and even lived. This (the ‘all pornography is homosexual’ idea) is just as invented a theory as any of the major nonsense I’ve ever heard from the New Age movement and I’ve heard plenty.
Anonymous

You are dangerous and stupid.

A lethal combination.

You should be moved to an island with all the other Christians. That way, you can all kill each other over speaking in tongues properly, or who is worshipping the right spaghetti monster in the sky and other bullshit like that, and the SANE among us will be left to live in PEACE.
Guest

Rable, rable, blame, blame. I know you REALLY want to make the being of the same gender (in this situation) = selfish? = porn? connection, which is absurd enough, but to extend that to “porn causes homosexuality” is completely off-the-wall and no more valid than the “masterbation makes you blind” or “left-handedness is caused by evil spirit possession” BS you people used to peddle. Heck, fundi “Christianity” = porn is probably a more fair and valid association given your own trail of logic. Not to mention that your own peoples hysteria over sex created the porn boom in the first place, and that you have been by far the worst sufferers of porn addiction since the victorian era (and statistically some of the worst perpetrators of just about every other ill you blame on others and don’t have the moral conscience or backbone to accept any accountability for). You have invented a world in your own mind that doesn’t work with the reality of everyone else or nature, one where … laughably so … even tree rings are likely a “lie” or “leftist agenda” (probably even some association with the gays somehow) if old enough.

Grow up and get a clue.
Anonymous

jakeH, you must remember that we are dealing with a group of people that are simply too uneducated to understand that THEY HAVE DEMONIZED THE WRONG THING.

It is not SEX that should be demonized at all, it is VIOLENCE. But people (Christians and Islamic Terrorists mostly) who are likely to believe in the flying spaghetti monster are really quite likely to believe ANYTHING you toss their way, if hellfire is attached to it. Sad, really. They miss out on life.

These people turn sex into a bad thing, a ‘sin,’ while GLORIFYING violence against anyone and anything that does not conform to a belief system that was meant to keep ancient people in line.

So really, how DO you respond to people like this? They can’t be helped at this point. They shit all over the teachings of Jesus Christ every single day. And this is the man they supposedly call their ‘savior.’ So when you have a group of ‘believers’ so willing to shit all over their very own savior and his teachings about how we are to treat each other, really, what else can be said about these people? What else can be said?

bill4321

and all rob333s are over 50, WAY under-educated, and sadly waving from their front porches as the word passes them by.

See ya! Surely wouldn't wanna be ya.

You fool.

rob333

You made a Freudian slip “word passes them by.” You should read the Word in the Holy Bible, and stop passing by it.

Not over 50. Two college degrees. When I was 20 I marched in “Pro choice” parades and “straight but not narrow” support of homosexual rights in DC. When I had a family and was called by God, I saw what evil I had been involved in.

bill4321

I believe you. Totally.
rob333

Doesn't matter what you believe. You've made that clear.
Anonymous

“Doesn’t matter what you believe.”

“Do you ever listen to yourself?”

No comment.

onanov

No, actually, it's not.

rob333

We can agree to disagree. I don't see how watching a country become enthralled on its own perversity, hedonism and now, near bankruptcy can be a good thing. Unless it mirrors your life and you don't have a problem with that.

onanov

As long as we can leave open the concept that this perversity and hedonism could be considered the lies told to us by the Bush Administration after 9-11 leading to the current bankruptcy that resulted from fighting illegitimate wars against brown people and using private contractors friendly to that administration to shift even more income to the upper strata of society. That's the problem with you guys, you're so selective in identifying “sin.”

The Bush Administration was all about “security porn.” As to whether that's causing rampant homosexuality, I'd have noticed this more than you (and I don't see it).
rob333

How is that selective? Its biblical. I also haven't limited the sin *just to* homosexuality. That was the topic at hand. I agree that the Bush administration did some bad things. But to use that as a reason to continue other bad things – every heard two wrongs don't make a right? It just means that the sinful response it to use Bush's mistakes as a reason to further your own. Me too.

But, if to address your social justice issues, we have to abandon the present constitution and embrace socialism and its other evils, it may become necessary to tolerate the evil of a capitalist society if the evils of a liberal empire are worse.

By the way, we are judged unqiuely in our personal relationships with God, not group affiliations with people who have brown skin or hate Bush.

As for “was on the brown people” I'm not sure what you mean. I keep reading about South Africa's “almost” addition to the Genocide list because of the killings of innocent white men, woman and children by black south africas. But if you justify their demise as being “because of aparthied” you have landed back in the same “tit for tat” evil for an evil trap that is not God's word.
onanov

Well, you should perhaps reconsider your wearing of mixed-threaded clothing and consumption of pork (don't most of us eat that here in Iowa?) while you're at the application of Biblical teaching. For many of us, who don't use the Bible as our guide (and many of the Founders of our nation did not, either) your rules simply don't apply. I suggest you might want to pick up “The Year of Living Biblically” by A.J. Jacobs and see how well your own life measures up. Aren't all the sins equal, anyway?
rob333

I suggest that you pick up the Bible and read it. Its a wonderful personal anagram to deciphering the truth abut yourself. You wont find such things in cultural clap-traps.Your attack on the Bible as being non-relevant because of some outdated rules throws the baby out with the bathwater. And by the way, most of founders did read and live by the word. I dispute that one.

It is possible in your deconstructionist brown narratives you have found one by which to rewrite the history of this nation and its Constitution to meet the social agendas of Alinsky and Gramscii.

And no, all sins are not equal.
Anonymous

I suggest you close yours and become a productive member of society.
Anonymous

I am a very productive member of society thank you sir!!

Bill such venom.
Anonymous

Venom? Really?

But I am not the one trying to force my religious beliefs on you.

You can’t be the criminal and cry foul, bro.
Anonymous

How productive can you be if the only book you read is “That One”?
bill4321

Heterosexuals only demonize Homosexuality because it is a 'sin' they would never commit. This allows them to move through life feeling pious and holy, while they destroy the lives of the gay children that Heterosexuals themselves created.

Furthermore, Heterosexuals hold gay people to a higher standard than they hold themselves.

How else do you explain the fact that Heterosexuals hold gay people accountable to 'biblical law in the secular world, yet HETEROSEXUALS DO NOT HOLD THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE to 'biblical' law in the secular world.

My only regret when it comes to these Christian terrorists is that when they die, they will be unaware that all of their beliefs were untrue. That they tormented human beings in exchange for the false promise of an afterlife and to placate their own fears of death.
bill4321

More kool-aid, bob333?

It's Heterosexual White kool-aid, so you'll be fine. Just drink it. Really. You'll be fine.

Dude, if you have children, you really shouldn't. If you have a wife (or a husband,) my condolences to them. For you all seem destined to follow a deity that tells you that you should be treating human beings as something less than a human being. And you seem pretty good with that. You are a sheep. And that's OK. The world needs sheep.

If there was a God, I would simply thank him for not creating me with the same deficiencies that he created in you.

And then I'd tell him to go fuck himself.
rob333

I treat people well. I help those in need. I don't restrict it to straight people or males. That doesn't mean I have to love homosexuality. You gay-athiests are the worse sometimes: ultra-narcissistic.

You are a sheep and slave to your desire for the belief (that's what it is) in rationality. I know all of your arguments.

>>>And then I'd tell him to go fuck himself.
You'll have that opportunity! And I really don't think that's what you will say.

I have deficiencies…I am human…Christ was the only perfect one.
Anonymous

What did God ever do to you? Perhaps you should consider yourself as the source of your failures in your life. Its got to be hard to be so smart yet not really believe in anything, and constantly hate everybody that does.

I am sure he has tried to send you gifts you have rejected even blasphemed. A lot of us have!! No reason to continue doing it!

Sure, people ave abused God’s character and purpose, but wow – are you going to let them spoil the whole thing for you big baby?
Anonymous

I grew up in the Christian ‘church’ rob333. I know what is taught.

What did God ever do to me? Well, he did the same to me that he did to you. And that is NOTHING, rob333. Absolutely nothing. For ‘he’ would actually need to exist in order to be able to ‘do something to me.’ Yet he doesn’t. Curious. That I can sit here and call God a fuck-face. An asshole. A faggot, even. Yet here I still sit. In my house in Beverly Hills, UNSMITED. Still breathing. Still typing. God is still an asshole. Wait for it…. Damn! No lightning. Maybe some stronger curse words to God???

See my point, rob333? Probably not.

But my point really is this: I simply do not care that you choose to believe in the guy in the sky. It is none of my business. It defines you as a fool, but again – you choose that and are free to do so in this country. At least until I run it.

What I have a problem with is YOU trying to force your ridiculous beliefs onto MY life via the Government. That simply isn’t allowed. You and your Christians feel that you have carved out a ‘gay exception’ to the Constitution. You haven’t. That’s my only beef with ya’ll. Otherwise, I could care less what you believe in. It doesn’t even cross my mind. Ever. Until you start forcing me to live by a book that to me has all of the relevance of a superman comic. Just keep it in your ‘church’ where it belongs. It has ZERO place in MY life.

And when Heterosexuals begin holding themselves accountable to ‘biblical’ law in theri lives, you might have some sort of point. Until then, you look like a jackass just like all of the other ‘Christians.’

That’s all.
Anonymous

Horrible. Do you ever listen to yourself?

If I could I’d give you a big hug.

Okay, I can take it. A fool. A bigot. Jackass. So what. I would still help you on the street if you needed it.

You may know Christian teachings but never heard the word of God in it. This happens all the time. Especially to smart, wealthy athiests who have learned to “detune” from it.

You ave obviously misunderstood God’s true character. Why would he hit you with lightening for calling him names? He is perfect in his love, and his love for you is perfect. He isn’t capable of blemishing petiness. He’s not an egotist either so no need to “zap” you.

And my answer is to God alone, I don’t embrace the other Christians just becuase they are Christian. Plenty of problems with that. My own mother is an agnostic/athiest. So what? Your athiesm doesnt make God not exist.
Anonymous

What can I say about you that you do not say about yourself every time you open your mouth?

You seem intent on proving that the only decent Christian died on the cross.

I’ll still take that hug, though. ; )
Anonymous

“Horrible. Do you ever listen to yourself?” – Rob333

Hahaaahahahah!

You’re funny.
onanov

Sometimes the invisible and the non-existent look very much alike, Rob.

jrship

Judging from responses, some may have missed this story about another potentially meth-addled comment from a prominent GOP Senate staffer:
http://washingtonindependent.com/60172/sen-tom-…

rob333

I guess it all needs to play out like a “Sex in the City episode” or “Will and Grace”. It need not be snarky, but a sincere response.

This reference is true. Its true for the lives of many people. It also vindicates homosexuals to a degree as well, wouldn't you say? Homosexuals and at least 50% of heterosexual males are on the hook. All of it is sin. Its addictive as hell.

Anonymous

Rob, you’re pornographic.

RegularJoe

[Iowans do not have “a very good understanding of what same-sex marriage does to the overall institution of marriage.”]

Stevie, there's a big difference between *not understanding* and *not agreeing with bat-shit-crazy hatemongers such as yourself*.

Don't feel too bad, though….I'm sure there are a few 'special' folks in your neck of the woods who have their personal bigotries confused with theology. Peg, where you at? Stevie needs you.
rob333

All of you calling King a retard et al, are simply wrong. He is correct. Fact check: the homosexual agenda by design or by accident is a play right out of Gramscii's and Saul Alinsky's playbook. Many of you who find the view repugnant, are unwitting pawns in an effort to “destroy the narrative of the majority”. In other words, the leftist revolution in this country will be complete when the average person fails to see how such issues as homosexuality undermines a healthy society.

You Iowans who support this are not only ignorant, and foolhardy, but loathe to confront your own belief systems within the history of this country. So while you suggest that the institution of marriage deserves to be undermined by homosexuality because of the high divorce rate, you should take pause at how un-godly this argument is. You make something less sinful by adding more sin. Of course if you reject the notion of sin, that brings as back to the main point – which is – you are part of the godless, athiestic horde that at some level supports the Saul Alinksy doctrine.

I am not an Iowan and I think Mr. King is a stunning example of a truth teller. He will be reviled and hated by you folks who don't want someone to tell you 1) you are wrong 2) there is moral truth 3) you should change your path into responsible, god fearing behavior. You have a vested interest in hating people with this view. and that's why this country is swirling the drain.

bill4321

Can I get a side of fries with that plate of crazy, please.

God fearing? Really, bro? Really????

Why on earth should one fear the figments of someone else's imagination?

rob333

I want to remind you that your homosexuality used to be categorized as a mental illness in the DSM IV. Its only by hating God (which you do), embracing what you do are you able to fulfill the destiny of Saul Alinsky and Gramscii. You desire to hate me through rhetoric that demonizes, isolates and even to characterize as “crazy” is all socialist in its roots.

I don't hate you, but you should tell the truth.

bill4321

I don't hate you, rob333. I love you.

I just hate your sins.

And make no mistake, your sins of abuse, murder, torture, rape and dehumanization of the very gay children Heterosexuals themselves created will be taken FAR more seriously by God on judgment day than the genitalia of another's beloved.

Again, you are a tool.

I suspect you know that already.

rob333

Wow, really vitriolic. I expected such hate from homos.

I haven't abused, tortured, raped or dehumanized anyone that I know of. Also, you are trying to usurp God's role by telling me such things. Judge ye not lest ye be judged.

Your response is filled with hate. I am a tool. A tool of the lord.
bill4321

“I haven't abused, tortured, raped or dehumanized anyone that I know of.”

Your silence makes you complicit.
rob333

Hmmm. Bill about that DSM…
Anonymous

I’m a woman who likes male genitalia, as well as homosexual men.

And yes, I am a ‘homo’. A Homosapien.

jrship

Wait…..

I can't tell if this is satire.

jakeH

I am not sure if I even see the point of breaking apart their “arguments” … and of course they have no historical basis. All they do is take a policy they don't like or whatever group of people (minorities to bring in outside voters, and just about everyone else to also stir their own ranks) they can rally against, and then attach the right-wing buzzword of the day to it. Everything else is (often rambling) fluff.

rob333

Blah blah blah there's no truth in life…wah wah wah

jakeH

??? I am perfectly fine with accepting reality, and am surely not complaining about there being “no truth in life.” That's all your suggestion. If you feel the need to invent “truth” because you can't understand or are to scared to deal with the real world, then fine, but sorry if I don't join you in your paranoid delusions.
Anonymous

Troll.

onanov

As Molly Ivins once said of Ronald Reagan, “if you transplanted his brain into a bumble-bee, the bee would fly backward.” I think that effectively applies to Congressman King here. What a twisted f—.

rob333

I don't agree with an iota of anything you've said. But** that's a funny comment. That made me belly laugh!!

onanov

Actually, your worst fears are being realized before your very eyes–he will get something done.

rob333

Nah….he's failed, and will continue to. God will use his failure as an opportunity to get the country back on a real track. Obama's successes will grow out from his fall, not from his works. That's how God works sometimes with all of us – hes no exception. The ability to reap good from the bad is a quality of God's character that answers Epicurus' riddle (and not the only one as well)

onanov

Hmmm, wonder how you square God with the disastrous and deceptive Bush Administration? How do we get “good” out of that?

Anonymous

Get er done!- George W. Bush. (direct quote lol)

Pres. Obama can’t get anything done because conservatives block him at EVERY path. I guess he should run the country like yalls favorite beer drinkin president ever and get things done by lying to us all the time,and killing as many “insurgents”/ islamic infidels that he can along the way. But he wouldn’t do that because, I FORGOT,he is a muslim right? Don’t forget, the crazies who bombed us have a lot beliefs similar to yours, including there stance on homosexuality. I’m sure if it were up to you, “fags” would still be getting exectued like they do in Iraq.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

You christians are so backwards it still amazes. And I can say that with assurance because I used to be one.

bill4321

“In order for a socialist society to come about, the foundation of society, i.e., marriage, must be destroyed, King said.”
_______________________________________________________________________
Aren't HETEROSEXUALS destroying marriage all on their own? (That's a rhetorical questions, BTW.)

I swear, you straight people become loonier and loonier every single day.

Almost retarded, even.

rob333

No, you are correct that divorced married couples have wounded God's institution. But you don't answer a wrong with another wrong. I will admit that marriage's failings in our society have left open a gap for the homo agenda to exploit.

Again, why answer sin with sin?

bill4321

OK, Abraham.

rob333

NOw, you're being a troll Bill4321! C'mon man, God loves you. Can't be that bad.

bill4321

It's not. It's GREAT! Everyday. I couldn't be a happier homo, rob.
rob333

Pants is on fuhr!
Anonymous

I’m a woman who likes homosexual men. Does that make me a “homo”? Homo is not a slur, or a curse word. It comes from “Homosapien”, and that’s what you’re supposed to be, Rob333.

P.S: You’ve some seriously childish things you’re saying….”Pants is on fuhr?”.

You’re as wingnut flavored as Steve “Christianist” King.

bill4321

To rob333:

call us when the spaceship lands, you tool.

rob333

Spaceships are actually a phenomenon that came about when Alinsky's attack on religion in this nation started to take hold. Its been often posited that such beliefs are conjured by a nation of belief-less fools who would rather believe in technology than God.

bill4321

perhaps because technology actually EXISTS?

rob333

Seriously Bill. You just need to tune in to find him.

bill4321

Um, I suppose you are selling the tuner?
rob333

No not selling.
Anonymous

Sounds like something that’ll give me brain cancer. No thanks.

MickeyC

Mr. King seems so very out of touch with history and reality in general. He isn't much of a choice to be part of the government of the country. It would seem that it's time to elect someone to his office who is better attuned to various issues.

Peggy2

Steve King is very popular in his western Iowa district, thank you very much.

http://www.facebook.com/slincoln W Scott Lincoln

Which tells you alot about western Iowa….

Peggy2

“A middle ground might be to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society’s moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution…The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake – and one that would perhaps benefit all of society – is to transform the notion of family entirely…It’s the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statutes, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into the public schools, and in short to usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us.” — Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile, OUT Magazine (Dec/Jan 1994), (May 1996)
WTFBlog

Iowans do not have “a very good understanding of what same-sex marriage does to the overall institution of marriage.”???

It does NOTHING to the institution of marriage, if King wants to preserve marriage, I suggest he starts campaigning to make divorce illegal, and hell, while he's at it, he should make adultery punishable by DEATH.

Peggy2

“Among gay men a long-lasting monogomous relationship is almost unknown.” – Dennis Altman, The Homosexualization of America (Boston: Beacon Press, 1982), 187.

WTFBlog

And your point?

Peggy2

Why pretend to be married if there's no intention of being monogamous?

It absolutely cheapens the institution of traditional marriage.

WTFBlog

No intention of being monogamous, the same can be said for heterosexuals, your argument is flawed.
Peggy2

Are you agreeing that homosexuals who enter into a bogus marriage have no intention of being monogamous?
WTFBlog

Gay people including myself are CAPABLE of being monogamous, the same can be said about heterosexuals, if the marriage is legal as declared by the STATE then its not a bogus marriage, If you happen to believe that when gay people get married, its not a real marriage but a bogus one, well, thats your opinion.
onanov

Peggy's determined that she gets to make the rules regarding marriage, I suppose–or perhaps the Bible makes those rules… and for those of us who aren't believers or who don't agree, we just have our rights of citizenship reduced or perhaps just taken away. A bit like the Third Reich so, if Peggy asks you to step into a boxcar I'd decline :-)

Peggy, do actually *know* any real live homosexuals other than the ones who smack you down here?
Peggy2

Sure! In fact, I worked with one for one day in Iowa City. He called in sick my second day on the job, never came back to work and died a few months later. He was in his early-to-mid fifties. It was AIDS. Gay hairdresser.
onanov

I would say that your knowledge of HIV/AIDS is both limited and dated.
Peggy2

Maybe so. Doesn't change the facts surrounding my co-worker's premature death.

I'm curious, too, about the two eastern Iowa men who died of H1N1 who had “personal” circumstances that contributed to their deaths. Gee, I wonder what that could be.
onanov

First off, I realize that any dialog with you is largely a waste of time, but for anyone else that might read this…

Actually, quite to the contrary. Time has changed those “facts” and I know a number of people who have survived to benefit from those changes (and according to what I know about you–since you're around 40, i'm about 12 years ahead of you in history). It's fairly uncommon for persons (both men and women) to die of HIV like that. With treatment, usually fairly uninvasive treatment as is the case with me, lifespan is predicted to approach that of any other person. I get the same colds and flu than anyone that I work around gets and I get over it in the same amount of time.

I spend more time worrying about someone hitting me on my bike because they're in a hurry to get to the next traffic light (invariably red) than I worry about dying of anything related to HIV.
onanov

Oh, and regarding the H1N1 comments, considering we're in a low-incident for HIV state, those circumstances could be anything from (yes) HIV to cancer, to old age to infancy. HIV is not along in suppressing the immune system.
Anonymous

From Lynda Waddington’s more recent story on HIV prescriptions:

“With our current system the way it is, if the program doesn’t constantly receive increases in funding, we’re always going to run into this problem,” said Holly Hanson, Ryan White Part B program manager for the Iowa Department of Public Health. “Flat funding will never work for us because the medications are good and people are living longer with this disease — which is a good thing — but diagnosis [of new cases] remains steady.”

“In short, funding has mostly remained at a consistent level since the 2005 increases due to state appropriations, but the numbers of people seeking assistance has continued to climb. Iowa has roughly 100 new individuals diagnosed as HIV positive each year. Nebraska diagnoses roughly 40 per year. For each individual receiving assistance, the states estimate they spend between $8,000 to $10,000 a year.”
http://onanov.com Donald Baxter

And your point would be?
Anonymous

I wouldn’t call 100 new cases of HIV per year a “low incident for HIV.”

Doesn’t anybody care that the state is paying $8-10K for persons who, in large part, have a disease they could have prevented getting?

The state is cracking down on smokers and people who don’t wear seatbelts but nothing is ever said about homosexuals and the costly consequences of their behavior. That’s discrimination – or special treatment, depending on how you look at it.
http://onanov.com Donald Baxter

Yes, that is a low incidence. Considering other issues such as childhood obesity, diabetes, other public health risks like car accidents, etc. All of those issues are preventable to one degree or another as well. Driving is pretty costly from a public safety standpoint as well, it just doesn’t fit in with you limited definition of sin. I think Iowa is about 47th of 51 in our incidence of HIV. I realize that stats and comparisons don’t mean much to you Peggy, but it’s how we measure severity. Iowa has larger public health issues than HIV.
Anonymous

Well, yes, all things being relative, Iowa doesn’t rank too high but I still think taxpayers would be interested in knowing how much the state is forking out to cover these meds.

Soft drink taxes are coming…Type 1 Diabetes is genetic…and nobody intentionally sets out to wreck a car. But still, those things will receive greater public scrunity than the self-destructive homosexual lifestyle. It’s unfair and makes no sense.
onanov

So you think people set out to get HIV/AIDS, or an STD, or pregnant, just because they have sex? How is this any different that people who purposely take risks with an automobile. Type 2 diabetes and obesity are largely behaviour related diseases that could quite possibly be the bulk of our increasing health costs for the next 50 years. Basically, I think what this boils down to is that you just don't think that people should have sex outside of the narrow definition your religion teaches you where it's okay. I'll push for avoiding your religious values to be converted to public policy. While I'm doing that perhaps you should re-examine even your Catholic faith for how well your values are held up from within, perhaps?
http://www.facebook.com/slincoln W Scott Lincoln

Peggy Peggy, at it again. I see my prayers for you havent worked. The prejudice and ignorance inside of you is just too defiant.

onanov

For those of you who are wondering where Steve King came up with this idea, there's this: http://snurl.com/s4mbj

Peggy2

Nice try. No matter the color of a male and female's skin, their anatomical parts are still complementary. Apples and oranges, pal.

onanov

So, Peggy, what was your side's excuse for pointing to the Reds for influencing mixed marriages back in the 1950s and 60s? This photo just depicts the same people with a different cause, after all. Of course, no one would ever accuse the Christian Right as quick on the uptake with their own ironies.

Peggy2

Sort of like the Democratic Party of today accusing Republicans of racism. Ironic indeed.

onanov

Not Republicans in general, just Republicans of a certain ilk.
Peggy2

Yeah, the outspoken ones. ( :

Have a great weekend, my friend. Peace.

Peggy2

I don't want to talk about religion. Let's stick to nature.

List the pros and cons of sex within the confines of heterosexual marriage, and then the pros and cons of promiscuity, gay or straight.

onanov

Sorry, but I know that religion drives your politics–not nature; and you don't get to dictate what we talk about anyway. If we were talking about nature, we'd be talking about the fact that homosexuality occurs in nature outside of primates. As far as the “pros and cons” of promiscuity that's only a debate you can have with yourself and your religion. That ideal concept of monogamous marriage, for better or worse, isn't one that's been around all that long if you go back and study the history of marriages anyway.
Peggy2

You're wrong again. If the state (taxpayers) is footing the bill for people's behavioral consequences, or telling them how to live to avoid such consequences, then everything is on the table, including homosexuality. No religion involved…that wasn't so hard now, was it?

Oh, and the difference between you and an ape is that you have free will and reasoning. You can deduce that your actions may cause you trouble down the road and choose not to take your pants off.

Gotta' run.
onanov

The problem is, Peggy, that your goal to get government involved in the decisions of individual Americans is a very slippery slope. Aside from that, it's counterproductive–where your way is taught–my home states of Georgia and Alabama, for instance (places where abstinence education rules the day) unplanned pregnancies, divorce, std rates, HIV, etc., are rising rapidly and in fact out of control. Places that don't adopt these policies (like Massachusetts, for instance and to a lesser extent here in Iowa) have either steady or declining rates for all these. Religiosity just keeps people fat, dumb, diseased and pregnant. Perhaps this is Steve King's natural constituency–there are more politicians down there like him than there are up here.
onanov

And aside from this your opposition to same sex marriage would indicate that you aren't really a supporter of monogamy after all. Right? Does it actually give you comfort to know that two persons of the same sex would actually be sexually faithful to each other? Just to remind you, this is you, isn't it?

http://www.daylife.com/photo/04wo98P7TI36o

Peggy2

Can't bring yourself to discuss the natural outcomes of promiscuous sex? Too bad.

onanov

Ask your priest :-) He might know more than me.

lenworthpoyser

My question for most people with that argument is this, what about hermaphrodites and chimera born with no genitals, or both male and female parts. Who do they marry? What sex do they choose? Isn't it obvious that if “God creates” people with both genatalia or none at all, that gender is of no concern to him?

lenworthpoyser

And about that whole racism argument, don't fool yourself Peg. What party do racists tend to be in? I'll give you a hint, that black guy whose president is a democrat.

Peggy2

CAPABLE of monogamy? Mighty big of you. At least with the vast majority of heteros, monogamy is the DESIRED NORM.

“We should put an end to our embarrassment about transcending monogamy, for by moving beyond it we have also transcended the possessiveness and jealousy adopted from tradtional heterosexual relationships in which males “own” women, who are in turn dependent. By openly and honestly incorporating recreational sex into our relationship we have tapped a rich quarry of “resistence,” that essential quality needed for rewarding, ongoing sexuality….” — homosexual activist Bruce Voeller, “Stonewall Anniversary,” The Advocate (July 12, 1979)
lenworthpoyser

WTF is he talking about? I swear they just make up this crap as they go. Conservatives love talking about what a dim future we will have if we agree to something they don't like, yet can never provide examples as to what horrible events will take place.
EricaJa

Hahaaahaahaha!

Sorry everybody! The title alone made me giggle!! This is simply hilarious!
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King needs to go to!!!
Peggy2

You're wrong again. If the state (taxpayers) is footing the bill for people's behavioral consequences, or telling them how to live to avoid such consequences, then everything is on the table, including homosexuality. No religion involved…that wasn't so hard now, was it?

Oh, and the difference between you and an ape is that you have free will and reasoning. You can deduce that your actions may cause you trouble down the road and choose not to take your pants off.

Gotta' run.
onanov

The problem is, Peggy, that your goal to get government involved in the decisions of individual Americans is a very slippery slope. Aside from that, it's counterproductive–where your way is taught–my home states of Georgia and Alabama, for instance (places where abstinence education rules the day) unplanned pregnancies, divorce, std rates, HIV, etc., are rising rapidly and in fact out of control. Places that don't adopt these policies (like Massachusetts, for instance and to a lesser extent here in Iowa) have either steady or declining rates for all these. Religiosity just keeps people fat, dumb, diseased and pregnant. Perhaps this is Steve King's natural constituency–there are more politicians down there like him than there are up here.
onanov

And aside from this your opposition to same sex marriage would indicate that you aren't really a supporter of monogamy after all. Right? Does it actually give you comfort to know that two persons of the same sex would actually be sexually faithful to each other? Just to remind you, this is you, isn't it?

http://www.daylife.com/photo/04wo98P7TI36o
Peggy2

Can't bring yourself to discuss the natural outcomes of promiscuous sex? Too bad.
onanov

Ask your priest :-) He might know more than me.
Peggy2

I don't want to talk about religion. Let's stick to nature.

List the pros and cons of sex within the confines of heterosexual marriage, and then the pros and cons of promiscuity, gay or straight.
onanov

Sorry, but I know that religion drives your politics–not nature; and you don't get to dictate what we talk about anyway. If we were talking about nature, we'd be talking about the fact that homosexuality occurs in nature outside of primates. As far as the “pros and cons” of promiscuity that's only a debate you can have with yourself and your religion. That ideal concept of monogamous marriage, for better or worse, isn't one that's been around all that long if you go back and study the history of marriages anyway.
Peggy2

You're wrong again. If the state (taxpayers) is footing the bill for people's behavioral consequences, or telling them how to live to avoid such consequences, then everything is on the table, including homosexuality. No religion involved…that wasn't so hard now, was it?

Oh, and the difference between you and an ape is that you have free will and reasoning. You can deduce that your actions may cause you trouble down the road and choose not to take your pants off.

Gotta' run.
onanov

The problem is, Peggy, that your goal to get government involved in the decisions of individual Americans is a very slippery slope. Aside from that, it's counterproductive–where your way is taught–my home states of Georgia and Alabama, for instance (places where abstinence education rules the day) unplanned pregnancies, divorce, std rates, HIV, etc., are rising rapidly and in fact out of control. Places that don't adopt these policies (like Massachusetts, for instance and to a lesser extent here in Iowa) have either steady or declining rates for all these. Religiosity just keeps people fat, dumb, diseased and pregnant. Perhaps this is Steve King's natural constituency–there are more politicians down there like him than there are up here.
onanov

And aside from this your opposition to same sex marriage would indicate that you aren't really a supporter of monogamy after all. Right? Does it actually give you comfort to know that two persons of the same sex would actually be sexually faithful to each other? Just to remind you, this is you, isn't it?

http://www.daylife.com/photo/04wo98P7TI36o
Peggy2

Can't bring yourself to discuss the natural outcomes of promiscuous sex? Too bad.
onanov

Ask your priest :-) He might know more than me.

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