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By Lynda Waddington | 11.17.11

Wednesday was a difficult day for The American Independent News Network, which is the larger entity that operates The Iowa Independent. Our chief executive and founder announced two of our sister sites would close and their content would be moved to The American Independent.

ACS lockout continues; plan emerges to repeal sugar protections

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By Virginia Chamlee | 11.15.11

A recently introduced bill could have far-reaching impact on the U.S. sugar industry, including American Crystal Sugar, a farmer-owned cooperative that locked out 1,300 Midwest workers on Aug. 1.

Cain campaign: Farmers know more about regulations than EPA

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By Andrew Duffelmeyer | 11.15.11

The chairman for Herman Cain’s Iowa effort says the campaign “relied more on the word of farmers than Washington regulators” in deciding to run an ad containing claims the Environmental Protection Agency says are false.

Mathis wins, Democrats maintain Senate control

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By Lynda Waddington | 11.08.11

The Iowa Senate will remain under the control of a slim 26-25 Democratic majority when it reconvenes in January 2012.

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PR: Nation should work to address veterans’ challenges

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BRUCE BRALEY RELEASE — As US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan ends, it’s more important than ever that our nation works to address the challenges faced by the men and women who fought there.

PR: Honoring veterans, help in hiring

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CHUCK GRASSLEY RELEASE — A difficult job market is challenging the soldiers, sailors and airmen who have protected America’s interests by serving in the Armed Forces.

PR: In honor of America’s veterans

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TOM LATHAM RELEASE — No one has done more to secure the freedom enjoyed by every single American than our veterans and those currently serving in the armed services.

PR: Honoring and supporting our nation’s veterans

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DAVE LOEBSACK RELEASE — Veterans Day is an opportunity to reflect on the service of generations of veterans and to honor the sacrifices they and their families have made so that we may live in peace and freedom here at home.

Grassley responds to backlash over euthanasia rumor

By Jason Hancock | 08.13.09 | 3:29 pm

Responding to the media storm surrounding his statements Wednesday that government-run health care will lead to mandatory euthanasia for the nation’s elderly, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, released a press release standing by the debunked theory.

File photo: Sen Charles Grassley. (Lauren Victoria Burke/wdcpix.com)

File photo: Sen Charles Grassley. (Lauren Victoria Burke/wdcpix.com)

“On the end-of-life issue, there’s a big difference between a simple educational campaign, as some advocates want, and the way the House committee-passed bill pays physicians to advise patients about end of life care and rates physician quality of care based on the creation of and adherence to orders for end-of-life care, while at the same time creating a government-run program that is likely to lead to the rationing of care for everyone,” he said.

The Senate Finance Committee, which has become the center of debate over health care reform legislation and on which Grassley is the senior Republican, has “dropped end-of-life provisions from consideration entirely because of the way they could be misinterpreted and implemented incorrectly,” he said.

As pointed out by Politifact, the Pulitzer Prize winning Web site run by the staff of the St. Petersburg Times, despite Grassley’s insistence,  “there is no panel in any version of the health care bills in Congress that judges a person’s ‘level of productivity in society’ to determine whether they are ‘worthy’ of health care” in the entire 1,000-page bill.

As for end-of-life planning, Politifact says the language in the bill is in fact very plain.

According to the bill, “such consultation shall include the following: An explanation by the practitioner of advance care planning, including key questions and considerations, important steps, and suggested people to talk to; an explanation by the practitioner of advance directives, including living wills and durable powers of attorney, and their uses; an explanation by the practitioner of the role and responsibilities of a health care proxy.”

Medicare will cover one session every five years, the legislation states. If a patient becomes very ill in the interim, Medicare will cover additional sessions.

In addition to continuing to spread the “death panel” urban legend, Grassley’s statement also mentions another debunked argument opponents of health care reform have made: that it will provide health care to illegal immigrants.

“The bill passed by the House committees is so poorly cobbled together that it will have all kinds of unintended consequences, including making taxpayers fund health care subsidies for illegal immigrants,” Grassley said.

This despite a section of the bill titled “No Federal Payment for Undocumented Aliens” which states: “Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.”

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  • http://www.FaithfulinPrayer.wordpress.com FaithfulinPrayer

    I'm reading the healthcare bill (h.r.3200) and detailing what it actually says at http://www.FaithfulinPrayer.wordpress.com. I've just started the Medicare/Medicaid division, so I'll see the death panels are in it, but so far the bill does not mention death panels or euthanasia. I'm not particularly for the bill, but I like for people to know the facts and what is speculation. Come join me in my journey through the bill.

  • RegularJoe

    Time to come home, Chuck…..time to come home.

    http://www.KrauseForIowa.com

  • jrship

    The interesting thing about this whole debate is how little has been said about panels at private insurance companies making decisions about dropping the coverage for cancer patients. Check out the testimony of Robin Beaton on how she was dropped after her breast cancer diagnosis over something she didn't even know was on her chart from a visit for acne (which the doctor disputes the insurer's interpretation of):
    http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090…

    Does that count as a “death panel”?

    The fact of the matter is that Grassley has only now discovered this issue. In 2007 when S464 was referred to the Finance committee, on which he's the ranking Rep., he had no comment nd did not take a position. When the Iowa legislature passed something similar to the House proposal in 2008, Grassley never spoke out. He's only discovered his passionate views on end of life issues now for partisan purposes.

    It's really disappointing to see Grassley join the Palin wing of his party.

  • labman57

    Remember the 4 D's of the Republican strategy during the Obama years: Delay, Distract, Distort, Deceive.

    Part of the reason why public support for health care reform has declined is that the Democrats keep taking the high road to promote the legislation, while the Republicans continue to travel the low road in their efforts to quash any bill containing substantive reform, relying heavily on health insurance industry lobbyists to promote their message of maintaining the status quo.

    For example, one component of some of the health care reform proposals include provisions for OPTIONAL living will and DNR consultations. It makes perfect sense for people to consider such matters, but contrary to what has been disingenuously disseminated by reform opponents, they are not mandatory and are certainly not some malevolent plot to kill off the elderly.

    The whole notion that the health care reform proposals will lead to “Soylent Green-style” euthanasia of the elderly is a part of a coordinated campaign by the health insurance industry to use fear-mongering and misinformation to sway public opinion. The Congressional GOP has shown itself to be a puppet of this industry and their lobbyists with their desire to perpetuate these myths.  

    The antidote is information — the public needs to be better educated about what the proposed health care reform plans do and do not include, as well as how they will and will not be funded.

  • labman57

    Socialistic tyranny? Fascist dictatorships? Death panels? Internment camps? Foreign birth certificates? They're all part of a common pattern.

    The problem is that the most vocal opponents of the reform legislation really do not care whether what they are espousing is factually correct. They will gladly embrace the lies and distortions if these fallacies provide a vehicle for venting their pent up hatred against anything and everything with the Obama stamp on it.

    The key is to get past these bellicose blowhards and reach the constituency that is genuinely concerned, yet receptive to learning the facts. The tricky part is that it's hard to separate the sincere wheat from the Astroturf chaff.

  • bartnrod

    OK OK, that does it. The senator has definitely lost his marbles.

  • gailmacinnes

    I am very disappointed in Senator Grassley. He knows better.

  • jhanifen

    It makes me sad to see a representative from Iowa make comments like this. Iowa has a great reputation of being the moderate and sensible voice of America. Iowa is the voice of common sense and educated individuals, Grassley is doing a major disservice to Iowa by putting us into a fringe group. I believe it is time for our long time Senator to move on and allow Iowa to have a voice that reflects the moderate and progressive views of Iowa.

  • Peggy2

    Face it, folks, every version of this monstrosity of a bill that's still standing is crap. It's too big, nobody's read it, and Obama and the Dems want to ram it through. WHY??? What's the big hurry?

    And is it really such a stretch that the people who defend a woman's 'right' to abort her own unborn child would think it okay to off an elderly person because they've become a burden to society and an unnecessary expense? What the hell's the difference?

    Mock Senator Grassley all you want but he and countless others can see the danger in the wording of this section of the proposed bill. Too much wiggle room leads to abuses in the future, just like abortion when the mother's health is in danger. It's too broad and it's a joke.

    • jrship

      It violates the individual's rights to make medical decisions for them. On the abortion debate it's the rightwingers that want the government making medical decisions. On both debates, its the liberal position to have individuals decide for themselves. Until the Palinites decided to make it into a wedge issue, there was actually bipartisan support for end of life counseling. Grassley even voted for it in 2003 for terminally ill patients.

      • Peggy2

        No, jrship, we 'rightwingers' (original!) speak for the voiceless unborn; there are two people involved in abortion and one dies at the discretion of the other. Even if you don't believe an unborn baby is a human being, perhaps you can try to justify partial birth abortion.

        How do you know Grassley knew he voted for end-of-life counseling in 2003? Hasn't all of Congress proven that they don't read these monstrous bill they're voting on? How could they?

        They need to scrap this legislation, start over, slow down and know what the hell they're voting for. Obama's goal is devious and misdirected.

        “Palinites?” Sounds like a wedge term to me.

        • jrship

          I just think it's rather telling that he's only now discovered his strong views on the issue. No one could read all the legislation before Congress. That's why we pay for them to have staff. If Grassley had such strong views then why doesn't he have his staff flagging anything relating to end of life issues? He's only discovered his views because he wants to use divisive fear tactics to stall health care reform.

          I think that late-term abortions should only be allowed as a medical necessity when the life or health of the mother is threatened. I would suggest that you might further your cause by exhibiting half as much concern for adult humans as you do for fetuses. For instance, what is your view on for-profit insurers rescinding coverage of cancer patients. Does this count as a “death panel”?
          http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090…

          Finally, I don't see why “Palinite” is a wedge term. Is there some other term that you would like me to use for her acolytes in the Republican base? How about “real American patriots”, because…. you know…. the rest of us just have fake birth certificates…. or something.

        • jrship

          And, btw, he's had 6 yeas since voting for end of life counseling for terminally ill patients. According to his Senate office, he's never made a public comment on this issue previously. If he truly believes this is such a scary thing he's had plenty of time to introduce legislation overturning the legislation he previously voted for.

          He now says this is something that should be done early, not near the end. That's interesting because he voted for it for terminally ill patients and now opposes expanding Medicare coverage so that it can be thought through and individuals can make informed decisions years ahead of time. He's totally disingenuous. What kind of person uses fear to manipulate the elderly?

          • Peggy2

            Like I said before, does he even KNOW he voted for it? Imagine yourself as a senator. Would you announce to your staff that you want a heads up anytime legislation proposing the beheading of school children is introduced? That would make as much sense as your theory regarding Grassley and end-of-life counseling.

            I didn't ask you about “late-term” abortions, I want to know if you think the baby aborted in a partial-birth abortion has any rights. And what medical condition could possible justify a PBA?

            The term “Palinite” is meaningless – we didn't suddenly become conservative Republicans when Sarah Palin surfaced.

            It's hilarious that Barack is doing all these town hall meetings on the weekend; he waited until Limbaugh and Beck were off the clock!

          • RegularJoe

            “The term “Palinite” is meaningless – we didn't suddenly become conservative Republicans when Sarah Palin surfaced.”

            True, you didn't. You just became a lot more vocal when you had a pretty face delivering an ugly message.
            Stupid + Pretty <> Smart (or Sane)

          • Peggy2

            What “ugly message” would that be? (This'll be good.)

          • RegularJoe

            if you have to ask…..

          • jrship

            How about claiming Dems want to kill disabled people when in fact Dems passed SSDI and Medicaid over the screams of the right and it's Dems that have lead the way on equal rights for people with disability. You can't possibly look at Tom Harkin's record on disability rights and make the ugly fear-mongering accusations that Palin and Grassley have made without bearing false witness.

          • jrship

            I don't see how end of life counseling is at all like beheading school children. This has been an issue that's been moving forward in recent years, from the 03 vote to the 07 bill cosponsored by two Reps and referred to Grassley's committee. If he had strong views on it he's had plenty of opportunity to act but only waited until now to try to scare seniors.

            I said I was against late term abortion in general unless the health of the mother is in danger, whether the procedure is “partial birth” is beside the point because I'm against it in general with the exception. I'm not a doctor and I won't pretend to be one so you'll have to look elsewhere for an answer as to what could make one procedure or anther necessary.

            I don't think that you can simultaneously distance yourself from Palin and also follow her lead in these distortions and fear-mongering tactics on end of life issues.

            I think it's hilarious that you think the president sets his schedule according to Beck and Limbaugh.

          • Peggy2

            I haven't read anything by Sarah Palin or heard her speak in a long, long time. Despite your paranoia, she's really not that relevant.

          • Peggy2

            “I think it's hilarious that you think the president sets his schedule according to Beck and Limbaugh.”

            Trust me, it's happened a thousand times over the years but this is the most obvious example. Weekend! town hall meetings? LOL!

    • RegularJoe

      Peg, good to see you back in the game, supporting Chuckles the Senile….er, Senior… Senator from Iowa like you do for Krazy King and his Kookie Klan.
      Say, are you on Chuckles' payroll now, or are you still supported by the Kingons?

      • Peggy2

        If only….

        What if I were on somebody's payroll? You're not trying to demonize me because you can't handle my arguments, are you?

        This reminds me of all the libdems whining about people at town hall meetings having “lists”, i.e. obvious Republican talking points, in their hands when they ask questions. So what if they do? Talking points are okay for libdems but not for Republicans?

        If it weren't for double standards, libdems would have no standards at all.

        • RegularJoe

          What about conservative dems…how do you feel about them?

          I don't whine about regressive republicans having talking points. In fact, I would encourage everyone to have talking points, based on fact and not fear, at theses meetings. Deathers, Birthers, Keep-yer-damned-government hands-off–my-medicaid-ers, and pretty much anyone who takes seriously anything Palin/BillO/Limbaugh/et al have to say really add nothing to the civil debate.

          As for double standards, Pegster, well, you're the queen.

  • Peggy2

    The same people that cheered Michael Schiavo's decision to unplug his conscious. thirty-something wife are now suddenly stepping up to fight euthanasia for the elderlly?

    Unbelievable. Literally.

    • RegularJoe

      oops, you got your emotions and facts confused again, Pegster. Terri Schiavo was 41 years old and had been in a persistent vegetative state for several years prior to her her husband finally being allowed to carry out her wishes regarding end-of-life care. PVS and conscious are two very different things…really, go look it up, I'll wait…….

      Oh, did I mention Michael Schiavo was Terri's HUSBAND….both legally and in the eyes of God. It wasn't one of those gay marriage things you rail against so vociferously. When are you folks going to get your stories straight regarding what your invisible friends (ad the voices in your heads) tell you?

      • Peggy2

        No, Joe, you're the one following the liberal media's talking points on the Schiavo issue. Couple this case with Obama's vote to allow aborted babies who didn't go willingly to be left to die and there's no doubt he's pro-euthanasia.

        Here, read this article, click on the links and educate yourself: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=60455

        That so-called husband, Michael Schiavo, had been living with another woman for years and fathered two children with her. If they were married legally and in the eyes of God, then he was committing adultery. What a great guy!

        Once again, when libdems have no facts you resort to ridicule and name-calling.

        • RegularJoe

          Sorry, Pegster, you're wrong.

          And why would you think (and I use the term loosely) that I take seriously some commentary written by a rong-wing nutter at a rong-wing “news” site?

          Never said he was a great guy. Never said adultery was legit, either. Nice attempt as spin, though. Fortunately, not everyone believes the bullshit. After all, roughly 50% of the population is above average in intelligence. Keep going for the low-hanging fruit…start with the humans-riding-dinosaurs crew at the State Fair…or the Phollowers of Phredd Phelps.

          • Peggy2

            And what exactly would the “bullshit” be in the Terri Schiavo case?

            BTW, the author of the article is considered a liberal.

            I don't know why I'm trying to convince you B.O is okay with euthanasia because apparently you are too.

            Enjoy getting old.

          • RegularJoe

            Pretty much anything that originates from those lonely and tired three neurons that control your fingers when you type.

            Considered liberal by Phred Phelps and you, perhaps.

            I don't know, either…unless you're lending credence to the “doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results” definition. Again, you're either not capable of thinking or you're intentionally misrepresenting positions you're paid to misrepresent. Either way, you're still wrong….and if the later, you're evil.

            I am enjoying the trip.

            By the way, when I was talking with God earlier, I was asked to relay a message as you stopped listening long ago. The message was “STFU, you're not helping at all. I gave you the give of Reason, and you should really start using it”

            Toodles!

          • Peggy2

            Remember my question about “bullshit?” Guess you can't answer it so you're going to throw your little sissy tantrum now. You suck at debating. Grow a pair and grow up!

          • RegularJoe

            Considering you don't answer any questions, you're about the last person any sane individual would take debating tips from. You suck, period.
            Tell your boss Chuckie we'd love to see him do a town hall outside his green zone….say, Cedar Rapids or Iowa City.

            p.s. You still suck, turd blossom.

  • aggressor

    That is not the complete qoute from the Bill Please fact check for yourself. Read HR3200 pages 425-430 MANDITORY COUNSELING! not an option and includes more than stated above.
    This is a bad bill and the people who decide what kind of care will be considered a “qaulified health insurance plan” will be a health benefits advisory board , please read about that as well. This Health Benefits Advisory Board will be chosen after the bill becomes law!
    That is like the bank asking you to sign a home loan and they will fill in the
    1. Interest Rate
    2. Closing Costs
    3. Length of Loan
    Tell me Iowa , how many of you would sign a home loan like that? None of you , you know that the terms should be filled in before you sign.
    So Iowans do we want a Health Care Bill that will decide what a qaulified plan will include and not include after it is ALREADY A LAW?
    I suggest everyone read the parts of the Bills for themselves that people are angry about. As a news outlet this media surely should have had the bill read totally.
    Beware of the teaser rate loans, the use car salesman who says we have to buy it now and the Government who says we will fill in the blanks later!
    Ashamed Democrat

  • DOUGLASFIELD

    * THE FINE ART OF DENYING 45 MILLION AMERICANS HEALTH~CARE IN OUR JUDEO~CHRISTIAN NATION *

    AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS ALL ACROSS THE USA HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO COUNT ON THEIR RELIGIOUS FLOCK TO CONTRIBUTE(TITHE)THEIR HARD EARNED MONIES TO THEIR MINISTRIES EVERY WEEK.

    THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ATTENDING RELIGIOUS SERVICES IN THE U.S. ARE MIDDLE~CLASS AND WORKING POOR CITIZENS WHO NOW DESPERATELY NEED THE HELP AND SUPPORT FROM THESE SAME U.S.RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN LOBBYING THE U.S.CONGRESS TO PROVIDE PROPER HEALTH~CARE FOR ALL POORER AMERICANS.

    ***THERE ARE CURRENTLY AN ESTIMASTED 45 MILLION MEN WOMAN AND CHILDREN WITHOUT HEALTH~CARE IN THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD????

    SILENT AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS WHO ALL HAVE HEALTH~CARE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IS MUCH MORE FRIGHTENING THEN THE POSSIBLE DENIAL OF A FUTURE HEALTH~CARE PLAN FOR ALL…

    LAWYERS FOR POOR AMERICANS (424-247-2013)
    lawyersforpooreramericans@yahoo.com

  • DOUGLASFIELD

    * THE FINE ART OF DENYING 45 MILLION AMERICANS HEALTH~CARE IN OUR JUDEO~CHRISTIAN NATION *

    AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS ALL ACROSS THE USA HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO COUNT ON THEIR RELIGIOUS FLOCK TO CONTRIBUTE(TITHE)THEIR HARD EARNED MONIES TO THEIR MINISTRIES EVERY WEEK.

    THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ATTENDING RELIGIOUS SERVICES IN THE U.S. ARE MIDDLE~CLASS AND WORKING POOR CITIZENS WHO NOW DESPERATELY NEED THE HELP AND SUPPORT FROM THESE SAME U.S.RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN LOBBYING THE U.S.CONGRESS TO PROVIDE PROPER HEALTH~CARE FOR ALL POORER AMERICANS.

    ***THERE ARE CURRENTLY AN ESTIMASTED 45 MILLION MEN WOMAN AND CHILDREN WITHOUT HEALTH~CARE IN THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD????

    SILENT AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS WHO ALL HAVE HEALTH~CARE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IS MUCH MORE FRIGHTENING THEN THE POSSIBLE DENIAL OF A FUTURE HEALTH~CARE PLAN FOR ALL…

    LAWYERS FOR POOR AMERICANS (424-247-2013)
    lawyersforpooreramericans@yahoo.com

  • DOUGLASFIELD

    * THE FINE ART OF DENYING 45 MILLION AMERICANS HEALTH~CARE IN OUR JUDEO~CHRISTIAN NATION *

    AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS ALL ACROSS THE USA HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO COUNT ON THEIR RELIGIOUS FLOCK TO CONTRIBUTE(TITHE)THEIR HARD EARNED MONIES TO THEIR MINISTRIES EVERY WEEK.

    THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ATTENDING RELIGIOUS SERVICES IN THE U.S. ARE MIDDLE~CLASS AND WORKING POOR CITIZENS WHO NOW DESPERATELY NEED THE HELP AND SUPPORT FROM THESE SAME U.S.RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN LOBBYING THE U.S.CONGRESS TO PROVIDE PROPER HEALTH~CARE FOR ALL POORER AMERICANS.

    ***THERE ARE CURRENTLY AN ESTIMASTED 45 MILLION MEN WOMAN AND CHILDREN WITHOUT HEALTH~CARE IN THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD????

    SILENT AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS WHO ALL HAVE HEALTH~CARE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IS MUCH MORE FRIGHTENING THEN THE POSSIBLE DENIAL OF A FUTURE HEALTH~CARE PLAN FOR ALL…

    LAWYERS FOR POOR AMERICANS (424-247-2013)
    lawyersforpooreramericans@yahoo.com

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