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		<title>By: mjg540</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjg540</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;dough4joe&lt;/strong&gt; The problem with the website is no one knows it exits.&#160; There is plenty of support for Biden in Iowa and is actually growing.&#160; This website needs to be put in the hands of every supporter he had on his website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>dough4joe</strong> The problem with the website is no one knows it exits.&nbsp; There is plenty of support for Biden in Iowa and is actually growing.&nbsp; This website needs to be put in the hands of every supporter he had on his website</p>
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		<title>By: desmoinesdem</title>
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		<dc:creator>desmoinesdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;my friend was unable to get in&lt;/strong&gt; to her precinct caucus in Johnston. She was driving around and around looking for parking. By the time she found a place, she figured it would take her at least ten minutes to walk to the school, and she figured she wouldn&#039;t get signed in by 7 pm. She turned around and went home.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Later she found out that she would have had the right to get in as long as she was in line by 7 pm, so she could have run fast and gotten there. But it was too late.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>my friend was unable to get in</strong> to her precinct caucus in Johnston. She was driving around and around looking for parking. By the time she found a place, she figured it would take her at least ten minutes to walk to the school, and she figured she wouldn&#39;t get signed in by 7 pm. She turned around and went home.
<p>Later she found out that she would have had the right to get in as long as she was in line by 7 pm, so she could have run fast and gotten there. But it was too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Iowa had support.&lt;/strong&gt; At my caucus, I worried the entire time about the viability factor.&#160; Especally since I arrived at the caucus to discover the highest turnout of High School age voters at the caucus that I have ever seen.&#160; This was great except that when I talked to them I really didn&#039;t find out a reason on why they chose their choice other than they thought experence wasn&#039;t nessecary.&#160; I don&#039;t blame them on this, thats youth.&#160; Still, I think the race would be better off with Biden in the race.&#160; Still, I feel good about supporting him.&#160; Supporting a &quot;sure win&quot; isn&#039;t as important as supporting a man who really could do the job from day one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Iowa had support.</strong> At my caucus, I worried the entire time about the viability factor.&nbsp; Especally since I arrived at the caucus to discover the highest turnout of High School age voters at the caucus that I have ever seen.&nbsp; This was great except that when I talked to them I really didn&#39;t find out a reason on why they chose their choice other than they thought experence wasn&#39;t nessecary.&nbsp; I don&#39;t blame them on this, thats youth.&nbsp; Still, I think the race would be better off with Biden in the race.&nbsp; Still, I feel good about supporting him.&nbsp; Supporting a &#8220;sure win&#8221; isn&#39;t as important as supporting a man who really could do the job from day one.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Fallon</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/1804/have-iowa-dems-outgrown-the-caucus-system/comment-page-1#comment-11992</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Fallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Joe Biden&#039;s supporters don&#039;t take Iowa loss lying down.&lt;/strong&gt; Press Release&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;From: Supporters of Joe Biden.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;For immediate release&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dated: January 6, 2008&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Subject:&#160; &quot;Dough4Joe: No Second Choice&quot;--Joe Biden&#039;s supporters mount a petition and pledge drive to bring Senator Biden back into the presidential race.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Background:&#160; It came as a shock to presidential candidate Joe Biden when on January 1&#039;st, 2008 his campaign web-site was inundated with contributions, setting a record for a one-day period . . . and doing so on a national holiday of parades, bowl games and aspirin--an astounding achievement.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;This phenomenon resulted from the efforts of&#160; an independent group of Joe Biden&#039;s supporters in the on-line community and their determination to express a vote of confidence in Senator Biden&#039;s campaign with an eleventh-hour pledge drive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;These supporters spread the word on the &quot;web.&quot;&#160; Putting the whole thing together over the Christmas holiday weekend and having less than a week to promote it, they still managed to raise enough awareness to have generated a one-day combined total of a whopping $80,000 in donations to the Biden campaign.&#160; Indeed, that same level of enthusiasm spilled over into the next day when the campaign web-site saw another $27,000 come in on January 2&#039;nd, one day before the Iowa caucus.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perspective:&#160; What brought this about was, in the week between Christmas and New Year&#039;s Day, Biden supporters &quot;out-blogged&quot; all other supporters of other candidates and even outperformed the renowned supporters of Ron Paul, with more substantive content being the relevant measure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Currently:&#160; Following Senator Biden&#039;s announcement of his decision to withdraw from the race, after finishing a distant fifth place in the Iowa caucus, the traffic to his campaign web-site exploded.&#160; Hundreds and hundreds of comments were left on his blog, urging him to reconsider.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Knowing Senator Biden&#039;s only real obstacle to winning primaries and the general election would be a lack of awareness on the part of people who do not watch C-SPAN all day, or spend their Sunday mornings in church as opposed to being at home watching the Sunday morning political programs, on which he has been a regular guest for the past 35 years, Joe Biden&#039;s supporters are now expressing their determination in a new way--one that, if even marginally successful, will write a new chapter in the history of American politics.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;They aim to flood the Senator Biden&#039;s offices with e-mails and telephone calls, and have put on-line a new web-site (&lt;a href=&quot;http://Dough4Joe.com&quot;&gt;Dough4Joe.com&lt;/a&gt;) called &quot;Dough4Joe: No Second Choice.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;A sure sign the group have struck a chord with the on-line community can be seen when running a Google search for &quot;Dough4Joe.&quot;--resulting in literally hundreds of &quot;hits.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;This web-based effort to both express and gather support and momentum for Joe Biden to re-enter the presidential race, reminds his supporters,&#160; &quot;We still have &#039;Promises to Keep&#039;.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;The group of Biden supporters address their appeal for public support--in the interest of fairness, equal treatment, honest dialogue and open debate-- to all supporters of any of the presidential candidates whom the Media has chosen to exclude or ignore.&#160; They ask that an on-line petition be signed and that supporters of Senator Biden specifically also pledge to contribute to his campaign upon his announcement of a decision to accede to popular demand by re-entering the race.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Goals and Objectives:&#160; This group of Biden supporters hopes to gather many thousands of signatures for the on-line petition and have set a pledge goal of Two million dollars, all actual donations not to be made until Senator Biden announces his intention to resume his presidential campaign.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;For additional information please visit &quot;Dough4Joe.com&quot; on-line and while there, sign the petition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Joe Biden&#39;s supporters don&#39;t take Iowa loss lying down.</strong> Press Release
<p>From: Supporters of Joe Biden.</p>
<p>For immediate release</p>
<p>Dated: January 6, 2008</p>
<p>Subject:&nbsp; &#8220;Dough4Joe: No Second Choice&#8221;&#8211;Joe Biden&#39;s supporters mount a petition and pledge drive to bring Senator Biden back into the presidential race.</p>
<p>Background:&nbsp; It came as a shock to presidential candidate Joe Biden when on January 1&#39;st, 2008 his campaign web-site was inundated with contributions, setting a record for a one-day period . . . and doing so on a national holiday of parades, bowl games and aspirin&#8211;an astounding achievement.</p>
<p>This phenomenon resulted from the efforts of&nbsp; an independent group of Joe Biden&#39;s supporters in the on-line community and their determination to express a vote of confidence in Senator Biden&#39;s campaign with an eleventh-hour pledge drive.</p>
<p>These supporters spread the word on the &#8220;web.&#8221;&nbsp; Putting the whole thing together over the Christmas holiday weekend and having less than a week to promote it, they still managed to raise enough awareness to have generated a one-day combined total of a whopping $80,000 in donations to the Biden campaign.&nbsp; Indeed, that same level of enthusiasm spilled over into the next day when the campaign web-site saw another $27,000 come in on January 2&#39;nd, one day before the Iowa caucus.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Perspective:&nbsp; What brought this about was, in the week between Christmas and New Year&#39;s Day, Biden supporters &#8220;out-blogged&#8221; all other supporters of other candidates and even outperformed the renowned supporters of Ron Paul, with more substantive content being the relevant measure.</p>
<p>Currently:&nbsp; Following Senator Biden&#39;s announcement of his decision to withdraw from the race, after finishing a distant fifth place in the Iowa caucus, the traffic to his campaign web-site exploded.&nbsp; Hundreds and hundreds of comments were left on his blog, urging him to reconsider.</p>
<p>Knowing Senator Biden&#39;s only real obstacle to winning primaries and the general election would be a lack of awareness on the part of people who do not watch C-SPAN all day, or spend their Sunday mornings in church as opposed to being at home watching the Sunday morning political programs, on which he has been a regular guest for the past 35 years, Joe Biden&#39;s supporters are now expressing their determination in a new way&#8211;one that, if even marginally successful, will write a new chapter in the history of American politics.</p>
<p>They aim to flood the Senator Biden&#39;s offices with e-mails and telephone calls, and have put on-line a new web-site (<a href="http://Dough4Joe.com">Dough4Joe.com</a>) called &#8220;Dough4Joe: No Second Choice.&#8221; </p>
<p>A sure sign the group have struck a chord with the on-line community can be seen when running a Google search for &#8220;Dough4Joe.&#8221;&#8211;resulting in literally hundreds of &#8220;hits.&#8221;</p>
<p>This web-based effort to both express and gather support and momentum for Joe Biden to re-enter the presidential race, reminds his supporters,&nbsp; &#8220;We still have &#39;Promises to Keep&#39;.&#8221;</p>
<p>The group of Biden supporters address their appeal for public support&#8211;in the interest of fairness, equal treatment, honest dialogue and open debate&#8211; to all supporters of any of the presidential candidates whom the Media has chosen to exclude or ignore.&nbsp; They ask that an on-line petition be signed and that supporters of Senator Biden specifically also pledge to contribute to his campaign upon his announcement of a decision to accede to popular demand by re-entering the race.</p>
<p>Goals and Objectives:&nbsp; This group of Biden supporters hopes to gather many thousands of signatures for the on-line petition and have set a pledge goal of Two million dollars, all actual donations not to be made until Senator Biden announces his intention to resume his presidential campaign.</p>
<p>For additional information please visit &#8220;Dough4Joe.com&#8221; on-line and while there, sign the petition.</p>
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		<title>By: KN</title>
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		<dc:creator>KN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Yep&lt;/strong&gt; What he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yep</strong> What he said.</p>
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		<title>By: John Neff</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Neff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Will Iowa have the first-in-the nation caucus in 2012?&lt;/strong&gt; I don&#039;t know but if nothing is changed the caucus will collapse under its own weight.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;We had 356 participants plus observers in the Iowa City Roosevelt grade school gym well over the safe occupancy level. We had to distribute 6 delegates over 8 candidates and the application of the viability condition under the overcrowded conditions was a massive failure. If the viability condition is not eliminated and replaced by true proportional representation the caucus will self-destruct.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Will Iowa have the first-in-the nation caucus in 2012?</strong> I don&#39;t know but if nothing is changed the caucus will collapse under its own weight.
<p>We had 356 participants plus observers in the Iowa City Roosevelt grade school gym well over the safe occupancy level. We had to distribute 6 delegates over 8 candidates and the application of the viability condition under the overcrowded conditions was a massive failure. If the viability condition is not eliminated and replaced by true proportional representation the caucus will self-destruct.</p>
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		<title>By: desmoinesdem</title>
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		<dc:creator>desmoinesdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;my friend was unable to get in&lt;/strong&gt; to her precinct caucus in Johnston. She was driving around and around looking for parking. By the time she found a place, she figured it would take her at least ten minutes to walk to the school, and she figured she wouldn&#039;t get signed in by 7 pm. She turned around and went home.&lt;p&gt;
Later she found out that she would have had the right to get in as long as she was in line by 7 pm, so she could have run fast and gotten there. But it was too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>my friend was unable to get in</strong> to her precinct caucus in Johnston. She was driving around and around looking for parking. By the time she found a place, she figured it would take her at least ten minutes to walk to the school, and she figured she wouldn&#8217;t get signed in by 7 pm. She turned around and went home.
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Later she found out that she would have had the right to get in as long as she was in line by 7 pm, so she could have run fast and gotten there. But it was too late.</p>
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		<title>By: mjg540</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjg540</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;dough4joe&lt;/strong&gt; The problem with the website is no one knows it exits.&#160; There is plenty of support for Biden in Iowa and is actually growing.&#160; This website needs to be put in the hands of every supporter he had on his website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>dough4joe</strong> The problem with the website is no one knows it exits.&nbsp; There is plenty of support for Biden in Iowa and is actually growing.&nbsp; This website needs to be put in the hands of every supporter he had on his website</p>
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		<title>By: John Neff</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Neff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Will Iowa have the first-in-the nation caucus in 2012?&lt;/strong&gt; I don&#039;t know but if nothing is changed the caucus will collapse under its own weight.&lt;p&gt;
We had 356 participants plus observers in the Iowa City Roosevelt grade school gym well over the safe occupancy level. We had to distribute 6 delegates over 8 candidates and the application of the viability condition under the overcrowded conditions was a massive failure. If the viability condition is not eliminated and replaced by true proportional representation the caucus will self-destruct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Will Iowa have the first-in-the nation caucus in 2012?</strong> I don&#8217;t know but if nothing is changed the caucus will collapse under its own weight.
<p>
We had 356 participants plus observers in the Iowa City Roosevelt grade school gym well over the safe occupancy level. We had to distribute 6 delegates over 8 candidates and the application of the viability condition under the overcrowded conditions was a massive failure. If the viability condition is not eliminated and replaced by true proportional representation the caucus will self-destruct.</p>
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		<title>By: KN</title>
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		<dc:creator>KN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Yep&lt;/strong&gt; What he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yep</strong> What he said.</p>
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