Comments on: Second-tier shenanigans: Biden supporters silenced by caucus crowd

By: Michael Nash

Michael Nash — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:26:19 +0000

Mob Rule This is a perfect example of how the "mob" has been persuaded to go with the "glamor candidates...the candidates annointed by the news media and the National Democratic Leadership Committee. Iowa Democrats should be absolutely appalled and ashamed of the behavior demonstrated at the Iowa caucuses last Thursday night. I am sure the YouTube example was repeated dozens if not hundreds of times that night. We were at a caucus held in Marion and we witnessed the same thing. Both Obama and Clinton "bussed" participants into the caucus. Yes, many of these people were "first time" caucus attendees, but I would also be willing to bet they were "one time" and perhaps "never again" caucus attendees as well. Even though many of these first timers were in their late 20's and 30's, most of them had NEVER even been registered to vote before. I stood at the entry door to the caucus hall and watched as caucus volunteers frantically, tried to get these "new" attendees registered in the time allotted. The new attendees had absolutely NO idea what they were to do at the caucus. And it was also evident, that once the caucus attendees gathered and stood to be counted, for their candidate, all of these first time attendees left the caucus. Even though both Clinton and Obama had more than the numbers needed, to secure their delegates, members of their caucus aggressively attacked the undecided caucus goers and those who at that moment seemed to be representing a candidate, who wouldn't be viable. Most of the undecided and nonviable caucus attendees were trying to make a decision as to where to go or how to regroup to perhaps bring Richardson, Dodd and Kucinich supporters over to the Biden group, who with a little work could have achieved viability. The caucus chairperson told everyone they would have 30 minutes to regroup and persuade other caucus attendees, to join the undecided and/or the Biden group. For the record, the 30 minutes that was supposed to be allocated, turned out to be only 5 minutes. Where is the justice in this?? We were Biden supporters....we saw over 500 people turn out for the Wednesday night rally held for Senator Biden at the Riverside Roundhouse, in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. No matter what the news media and the Clinton, Obama and Edwards supporters tell you and want you to believe, Senator Joe Biden WAS a viable Democratic presidential candidate. Everyone involved in this farce should be ashamed of themselves!! Iowa Democratic leaders should be especially ashamed and Americans should be ashamed!!

What transpired at the caucuses, is no worse than what transpired at the Jefferson/Jackson Day Dinner, held in Des Moines this fall. For that event both Obama and Clinton bussed in thousands of people, from other states, in order to fill the Veteran's Memorial auditorium and make everyone watching on C-Span and all of the other national news media, that these people were ALL Iowans, there supporting their candidates. What we have seen in Iowa is how money controls everything and how the voters of Iowa have very little to say about what the outcome will be. American voters need to be very concerned about the lack of fair play. We all need to make certain the news media gives EQUAL time to EVERY candidate and NOT just the ones who have the most money.

Iowans have always been able to make up their own minds and make their own decisions. We don't beed Oprah, Bill Clinton and the national news media coming in and telling us how we should vote and for whom we should vote!!

By: desmoinesdem

desmoinesdem — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:43:44 +0000

that is a total disgrace My precinct chair would never have allowed that to happen.

By: peoplepowergranny

peoplepowergranny — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:33:37 +0000

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By: desmoinesdem

desmoinesdem — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

that is a total disgrace My precinct chair would never have allowed that to happen.

By: Michael Nash

Michael Nash — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

Mob Rule This is a perfect example of how the “mob” has been persuaded to go with the “glamor candidates…the candidates annointed by the news media and the National Democratic Leadership Committee. Iowa Democrats should be absolutely appalled and ashamed of the behavior demonstrated at the Iowa caucuses last Thursday night. I am sure the YouTube example was repeated dozens if not hundreds of times that night. We were at a caucus held in Marion and we witnessed the same thing. Both Obama and Clinton “bussed” participants into the caucus. Yes, many of these people were “first time” caucus attendees, but I would also be willing to bet they were “one time” and perhaps “never again” caucus attendees as well. Even though many of these first timers were in their late 20’s and 30’s, most of them had NEVER even been registered to vote before. I stood at the entry door to the caucus hall and watched as caucus volunteers frantically, tried to get these “new” attendees registered in the time allotted. The new attendees had absolutely NO idea what they were to do at the caucus. And it was also evident, that once the caucus attendees gathered and stood to be counted, for their candidate, all of these first time attendees left the caucus. Even though both Clinton and Obama had more than the numbers needed, to secure their delegates, members of their caucus aggressively attacked the undecided caucus goers and those who at that moment seemed to be representing a candidate, who wouldn’t be viable. Most of the undecided and nonviable caucus attendees were trying to make a decision as to where to go or how to regroup to perhaps bring Richardson, Dodd and Kucinich supporters over to the Biden group, who with a little work could have achieved viability. The caucus chairperson told everyone they would have 30 minutes to regroup and persuade other caucus attendees, to join the undecided and/or the Biden group. For the record, the 30 minutes that was supposed to be allocated, turned out to be only 5 minutes. Where is the justice in this?? We were Biden supporters….we saw over 500 people turn out for the Wednesday night rally held for Senator Biden at the Riverside Roundhouse, in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. No matter what the news media and the Clinton, Obama and Edwards supporters tell you and want you to believe, Senator Joe Biden WAS a viable Democratic presidential candidate. Everyone involved in this farce should be ashamed of themselves!! Iowa Democratic leaders should be especially ashamed and Americans should be ashamed!!

What transpired at the caucuses, is no worse than what transpired at the Jefferson/Jackson Day Dinner, held in Des Moines this fall. For that event both Obama and Clinton bussed in thousands of people, from other states, in order to fill the Veteran’s Memorial auditorium and make everyone watching on C-Span and all of the other national news media, that these people were ALL Iowans, there supporting their candidates. What we have seen in Iowa is how money controls everything and how the voters of Iowa have very little to say about what the outcome will be. American voters need to be very concerned about the lack of fair play. We all need to make certain the news media gives EQUAL time to EVERY candidate and NOT just the ones who have the most money.

Iowans have always been able to make up their own minds and make their own decisions. We don’t beed Oprah, Bill Clinton and the national news media coming in and telling us how we should vote and for whom we should vote!!

By: peoplepowergranny

peoplepowergranny — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

people power granny Check out http://peopleppowerg... and vote in my new presidential poll. I also reflect on the recent Iowa Caucuses and what comes next.