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	<title>Comments on: Rumors and Accusations Cast Shadows on Brown and Black Presidential Forum</title>
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		<title>By: JImmieFromDayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>JImmieFromDayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Parsing is played out!&lt;/strong&gt; You guys just don&#039;t get it. You, like your candidate think that you&#039;re being wise with cloak and dagger rountines but soon you will see that the voters are no longer willing to accept the Clintons polical playbook. Who are the other fricking tickets going to and why? I hope that the other campaign demand an answer. This is simple stuff folks it shouldn&#039;t require a freaking subpoena to get an answer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Crooks!&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Parsing is played out!</strong> You guys just don&#39;t get it. You, like your candidate think that you&#39;re being wise with cloak and dagger rountines but soon you will see that the voters are no longer willing to accept the Clintons polical playbook. Who are the other fricking tickets going to and why? I hope that the other campaign demand an answer. This is simple stuff folks it shouldn&#39;t require a freaking subpoena to get an answer.</p>
<p>Crooks!</p>
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		<title>By: iPol</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Facts are hard to come by&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; Thank you for the implicit acknowledgement that the article contains no suporting facts. &lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;As to innuendo, the burden of proof is upon those who propagate it, not those toward whom it is directed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Facts are hard to come by&#8221;</strong> Thank you for the implicit acknowledgement that the article contains no suporting facts.
<p>As to innuendo, the burden of proof is upon those who propagate it, not those toward whom it is directed.</p>
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		<title>By: Inner City Res.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inner City Res.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 00:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Inner City Residents Left Out&lt;/strong&gt; I called Urban Dreams Tuesday morning. They told me to come in on Friday morning at 9:00 AM for tickets - first come first serve. When I arrived at 9:00 AM Friday morning they said they had no tickets available and to return at 3:00 PM for tickets.&#160; When I returned at 3:00 PM they stated that I was not on the list and I could not have tickets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Inner City Residents Left Out</strong> I called Urban Dreams Tuesday morning. They told me to come in on Friday morning at 9:00 AM for tickets &#8211; first come first serve. When I arrived at 9:00 AM Friday morning they said they had no tickets available and to return at 3:00 PM for tickets.&nbsp; When I returned at 3:00 PM they stated that I was not on the list and I could not have tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: Fair Play</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fair Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 00:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Special Clinton Guest&lt;/strong&gt; Special Note:&#160; The two special out of state guest invited by Mary Campos and Wayne Ford are the mayors of Los Angeles and Trenton, New Jersey.&#160; Both identified Clinton supporters who sit on her national steering committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Special Clinton Guest</strong> Special Note:&nbsp; The two special out of state guest invited by Mary Campos and Wayne Ford are the mayors of Los Angeles and Trenton, New Jersey.&nbsp; Both identified Clinton supporters who sit on her national steering committee.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned DSM Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned DSM Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 00:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ticket Fiasco&lt;/strong&gt; Fact - The North High School auditorium is the largest school auditorium in the Des Moines public schools. The North High School auditorium capacity - 1,800.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;50 tickets are distributed to 8 candidates campaigns = 400 tickets&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;200 tickets allocated to the local and national media&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wayne Ford and Mary Campos give out 1,200 tickets at their own discretion&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tried on 4 occasions over a four day period to obtain tickets from Urban Dreams (Wayne Ford Executive Director) without success. I e-mailed a request for tickets, I called twice and finally visited the office for tickets and each time I was given a different story about the ticket situation and each time I was denied access.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I live in and work in the community.&#160; It&#039;s unfortunate that two organizers have manipulated the process and denied access for local citizens of color to participate in the political process.&lt;br&gt;&#160;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ticket Fiasco</strong> Fact &#8211; The North High School auditorium is the largest school auditorium in the Des Moines public schools. The North High School auditorium capacity &#8211; 1,800.
<p>50 tickets are distributed to 8 candidates campaigns = 400 tickets</p>
<p>200 tickets allocated to the local and national media</p>
<p>Wayne Ford and Mary Campos give out 1,200 tickets at their own discretion</p>
<p>I tried on 4 occasions over a four day period to obtain tickets from Urban Dreams (Wayne Ford Executive Director) without success. I e-mailed a request for tickets, I called twice and finally visited the office for tickets and each time I was given a different story about the ticket situation and each time I was denied access.</p>
<p>I live in and work in the community.&nbsp; It&#39;s unfortunate that two organizers have manipulated the process and denied access for local citizens of color to participate in the political process.<br />&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: section9</title>
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		<dc:creator>section9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;She can&#039;t help herself&lt;/strong&gt; Just as she fixed the crowd in Vegas with friendly union guys, she&#039;s going to pack the crowd with her own goons. &lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Funny how you guys keep voting for these people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>She can&#39;t help herself</strong> Just as she fixed the crowd in Vegas with friendly union guys, she&#39;s going to pack the crowd with her own goons.
<p>Funny how you guys keep voting for these people.</p>
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		<title>By: independent 08</title>
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		<dc:creator>independent 08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How dare you?&lt;/strong&gt; How dare you post such innuendo with no supporting facts?&#160; How dare you not go directly to Campos and Ford for their defense of these allegations?.....oh you did?&#160; How dare you not even give them a chance to explain how they will distribute the other 600 tix?.....oh, you did?&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Hillary-supporting posters on this board who are trying to shoot the messenger, but their whining is pretty hollow.&#160; These are legitimate questions to raise, and the non-denials and lack of explanations out of Ford and Campo speak volumes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;A response like, &quot;I don&#039;t think that question needs an answer,&quot; is not a denial.&#160; If the explanation to how the other 600 tix are distributed is innocent, why not offer it?&#160; For Campos and Ford to act like they don&#039;t have to answer legitimate questions suggests that they don&#039;t feel accountable to their constituents, at least those that aren&#039;t supporting Hillary.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How dare you?</strong> How dare you post such innuendo with no supporting facts?&nbsp; How dare you not go directly to Campos and Ford for their defense of these allegations?&#8230;..oh you did?&nbsp; How dare you not even give them a chance to explain how they will distribute the other 600 tix?&#8230;..oh, you did?
<p>The Hillary-supporting posters on this board who are trying to shoot the messenger, but their whining is pretty hollow.&nbsp; These are legitimate questions to raise, and the non-denials and lack of explanations out of Ford and Campo speak volumes.</p>
<p>A response like, &#8220;I don&#39;t think that question needs an answer,&#8221; is not a denial.&nbsp; If the explanation to how the other 600 tix are distributed is innocent, why not offer it?&nbsp; For Campos and Ford to act like they don&#39;t have to answer legitimate questions suggests that they don&#39;t feel accountable to their constituents, at least those that aren&#39;t supporting Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Any negativity&lt;/strong&gt; You see here is not just by Iowans..I&#039;m from upstate, NY..it&#039;s about the assualt on democracy that Hillary takes upon herself to freely excoriate those who are not &#039;with her.&#039;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unwilling to allow the voters to decide based on who she is and what she represents via policy and beliefs, she resorts to rigging things like strong arming civil rights icons, Nevada leadership and CNN leadership. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are 7 other capable candidates in the Dem party working hard and honestly for our vote..why should she get it? and why should not the electorate know what she&#039;s up to?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Any negativity</strong> You see here is not just by Iowans..I&#39;m from upstate, NY..it&#39;s about the assualt on democracy that Hillary takes upon herself to freely excoriate those who are not &#39;with her.&#39;
<p>Unwilling to allow the voters to decide based on who she is and what she represents via policy and beliefs, she resorts to rigging things like strong arming civil rights icons, Nevada leadership and CNN leadership. </p>
<p>There are 7 other capable candidates in the Dem party working hard and honestly for our vote..why should she get it? and why should not the electorate know what she&#39;s up to?</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Oh Please&lt;/strong&gt; Anybody knowing the Hillary campaign for all of 5 minutes knows the brick wall enriched by lead enriched by asbestos pants by which she is protected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Oh Please</strong> Anybody knowing the Hillary campaign for all of 5 minutes knows the brick wall enriched by lead enriched by asbestos pants by which she is protected.</p>
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		<title>By: Zen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;A Mind is a terrible thing to waste&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; You missed the point of this Report, it&#039;s about Ms. Clinton trying to persuade the public with a fixed forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;A Mind is a terrible thing to waste&#8221;</strong> You missed the point of this Report, it&#39;s about Ms. Clinton trying to persuade the public with a fixed forum.</p>
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