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		<title>By: Dan_Kauffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan_Kauffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>detaining and deporting undocumented immigrants for such minor infractions as running a stop sign or carrying an open container of alcohol&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shouldn&#039;t an Illegal Alien be deported for being in the country illegally</description>
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<p>Shouldn&#39;t an Illegal Alien be deported for being in the country illegally</p>
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		<title>By: Dan_Kauffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan_Kauffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>detaining and deporting undocumented immigrants for such minor infractions as running a stop sign or carrying an open container of alcohol&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shouldn&#039;t an Illegal Alien be deported for being in the country illegally</description>
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<p>Shouldn&#39;t an Illegal Alien be deported for being in the country illegally</p>
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		<title>By: DHConner</title>
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		<dc:creator>DHConner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t need lawbreakers of ANY kind here in Iowa. Especially those who violate our laws by illegally crossing our borders. We have more than enough to do to raise the living and educational standards of our own poor without being overrun by illegal aliens who bring no skills, no education, and no resources. They then become absolute liabilities, increasing the demand and wear and tear on infrastructure and society in general. Special teachers for language, special labor departments because they don&#039;t speak English, taking jobs that were filled by high school and college students in the summer, and permanent jobs that were available to those entering or re-entering the workforce.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Mexico avoidance of the law or violating it is seen as nearly a sport.  People do not change their culture or behavior just because they cross a border. It is not the responsibility of  the US taxpayer to cover the atrocious financial burden these people put on us by their very presence. For every one of them that is here it is ineluctable that each   citizen gets less for their tax money. The US$60 billion that goes to Mexico every year is a large sum that should be operating in our markets, not Mexico&#039;s. That it is Mexico&#039;s single largest source of income should be a  strong warning to to all Mexicans that theirs is a society which is seriously malfunctioning and desperately in need of repair. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Amnesty of 1986 legitimized the presence of some 3 million illegals, and was supposed to put an end to illegal immigration. Such foolish, nonsensical thinking have brought us to today, where we have by some estimates as many as 25-30 million illegals, and certainly far more in any case than the 12 million the Obama administration claims. Any idiot,  even the lowest functioning,  knows that you do not reward criminal behavior by legalising it. If that were the solution, there would be &quot;no crime&quot; because all acts would be legalized in order to not have to deal with the problem..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To those who resort to &quot;it would cost too much to root them all out&quot; I say that cost would be far less than the ultimate cost of continued illegal immigration at the rate of the last 24 years since 1986. For those who support this illegal behavior, I ask them to  take on the PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY of caring for, feeding, housing,  and meeting all the other needs of a fully functioning person in our society. YOU take the financial, legal, and moral burden. Don&#039;t ask the 85% of  citizens who want illegal immigration stopped. YES, YOU PERSONALLY!! You get into your own financial affairs to make all the payments. Stay the hell out of mine!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The State of  Wisconsin and the nation of Bangladesh are very nearly exactly the same size. Wisconsin has about 5 million inhabitants. Bangladesh has an estimated 157 million. These facts are from the CIA Factbook at the CIA website. Iowa has about 3 million souls. What do you think Iowa would be like to live in with 50 times as many people? That figures out to at least 150 million people. The &quot;Des Moines Golden Circle&quot; with a diameter of 120 miles (60 mile radius of city center) has about 600,000 people +/-. Let&#039;s see, how about 30,000,000 people crowded onto just over 11,000 square miles (Golden Circle area)?  2700 people per square mile? Extrapolate that to the entire nation just for fun.  Something like 15 BILLION (300m x 50)?  Are you dead certain unrestrained immigration is what you really want?  The City of Des Moines  alone  would have 10,00,000 people within the present city limits !!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those of you who by your words and deeds support the illegals who are here and encourage more to come and help them to come are truly worthy of the words Jesus Christ said as His Earthly life was ending : &quot;Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do&#039;. In  your desire to &quot;do good&quot; you refuse to see the terrible harm you are doing to our city, our state, and our nation. If were just you who were to sufer the consequences of what you do and say, I would say you deserve it most richly. But we all suffer. Not just you. That  I deeply resent, will work t resist and stop entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#39;t need lawbreakers of ANY kind here in Iowa. Especially those who violate our laws by illegally crossing our borders. We have more than enough to do to raise the living and educational standards of our own poor without being overrun by illegal aliens who bring no skills, no education, and no resources. They then become absolute liabilities, increasing the demand and wear and tear on infrastructure and society in general. Special teachers for language, special labor departments because they don&#39;t speak English, taking jobs that were filled by high school and college students in the summer, and permanent jobs that were available to those entering or re-entering the workforce.</p>
<p>In Mexico avoidance of the law or violating it is seen as nearly a sport.  People do not change their culture or behavior just because they cross a border. It is not the responsibility of  the US taxpayer to cover the atrocious financial burden these people put on us by their very presence. For every one of them that is here it is ineluctable that each   citizen gets less for their tax money. The US$60 billion that goes to Mexico every year is a large sum that should be operating in our markets, not Mexico&#39;s. That it is Mexico&#39;s single largest source of income should be a  strong warning to to all Mexicans that theirs is a society which is seriously malfunctioning and desperately in need of repair. </p>
<p>The Amnesty of 1986 legitimized the presence of some 3 million illegals, and was supposed to put an end to illegal immigration. Such foolish, nonsensical thinking have brought us to today, where we have by some estimates as many as 25-30 million illegals, and certainly far more in any case than the 12 million the Obama administration claims. Any idiot,  even the lowest functioning,  knows that you do not reward criminal behavior by legalising it. If that were the solution, there would be &#8220;no crime&#8221; because all acts would be legalized in order to not have to deal with the problem..</p>
<p>To those who resort to &#8220;it would cost too much to root them all out&#8221; I say that cost would be far less than the ultimate cost of continued illegal immigration at the rate of the last 24 years since 1986. For those who support this illegal behavior, I ask them to  take on the PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY of caring for, feeding, housing,  and meeting all the other needs of a fully functioning person in our society. YOU take the financial, legal, and moral burden. Don&#39;t ask the 85% of  citizens who want illegal immigration stopped. YES, YOU PERSONALLY!! You get into your own financial affairs to make all the payments. Stay the hell out of mine!!</p>
<p>The State of  Wisconsin and the nation of Bangladesh are very nearly exactly the same size. Wisconsin has about 5 million inhabitants. Bangladesh has an estimated 157 million. These facts are from the CIA Factbook at the CIA website. Iowa has about 3 million souls. What do you think Iowa would be like to live in with 50 times as many people? That figures out to at least 150 million people. The &#8220;Des Moines Golden Circle&#8221; with a diameter of 120 miles (60 mile radius of city center) has about 600,000 people +/-. Let&#39;s see, how about 30,000,000 people crowded onto just over 11,000 square miles (Golden Circle area)?  2700 people per square mile? Extrapolate that to the entire nation just for fun.  Something like 15 BILLION (300m x 50)?  Are you dead certain unrestrained immigration is what you really want?  The City of Des Moines  alone  would have 10,00,000 people within the present city limits !!!</p>
<p>Those of you who by your words and deeds support the illegals who are here and encourage more to come and help them to come are truly worthy of the words Jesus Christ said as His Earthly life was ending : &#8220;Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do&#39;. In  your desire to &#8220;do good&#8221; you refuse to see the terrible harm you are doing to our city, our state, and our nation. If were just you who were to sufer the consequences of what you do and say, I would say you deserve it most richly. But we all suffer. Not just you. That  I deeply resent, will work t resist and stop entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittanicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittanicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Los Angeles  has deteriorated since the 60&#039;s, it&#039;s hard  for a person who original lived here even recognizes it.  As I have to stay here with relatives for a while, my son needed to locate a school.  My eyes opened wide to find the educational system is in a terrible mess.  I even looked up to see if the American flag was really flying over the school. Sad but true the demographics showed that the majority of the children came from South of the border and within in it&#039;s midst hardly any of 4th graders spoke recognizable English. Even the office staff were not conversing  in English to my dismay.  I learned the majority of kids received free breakfast and lunch, because the impoverished parents couldn&#039;t afford to feed them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; It&#039;s hard to blame the children, but my son is getting a second class education in this overcrowded chaos called a school.  It shows our borders are not secure, that our country has been overwhelmed by the negligence of our corrupt politicians catering to corporate greed.  Coming back to Southern California has turned me into an advocate, for the pro-sovereignty, anti-illegal alien organizations.  Los Angeles has turned into a sewer of criminal aliens running rampant with little or no prosecution, owing to a Sanctuary city policy initiated in San Francisco by Sen. Dianne Feinstein.  Filthy streets scattered with fast food wrappers, clogging drains, illegal alien gang infestation is  not the place not to bring up children.  City councilor Andronovich stated that $ 11. billion can be attributed to every illegal alien, who breaks into America, get a free lunch on the taxpayers in Los Angeles county.  It&#039;s run by a a corrupt mayor, who is directed by an even worse bunch of crooked legislators in Sacramento. This ominous pestilence of corruption, has been spreading across the country for many decades..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LA has become a breeding ground for a society, revolving slowly into a banana republic.  The true Angeleno&#039;s are hardly aware that their taxes are being drained by illegal aliens and their extended families, swarming here to take advantage of Americans.  Legal Los Angeles inhabitants needs to demand a Permanent E-Verify  from their government.   The system will uncover the illegal workers, opening job opportunities for US workers.  Over a period of time rejected by business and not able to find work, the exodus by ATTRITION will begin. American wages must go up and perhaps the elitists, will see through their avarice that American industry is better than importing cheap labor or exporting jobs overseas. Citizens and legal residents must do their part, because they have the ultimate power to--CHANGE THE FUTURE--because otherwise we will sink in a quagmire of multiculturalism, balkanization that has  caused massive unrest  and demonstrations in Europe. If we allow another AMNESTY our country will turn into a seething cauldron of frustration and anger in a growing OVERPOPULATED NATION. When billions of your tax dollars are spent to pacify open border entities, its up to the American public to fight back. Demand E-Verify from your cringing Senators &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.senate.gov&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.senate.gov&lt;/a&gt;  and Congressman at (202) 224-3121 who see you as a--CASHCOW-- for illegal foreign labor and corrupt foreign governments. IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE NOT BROKEN, JUST NOT ENFORCED! So enforce the 1986 Simpson/Mazzoli bill, the Immigration Reform &amp; Control Act as enacted. Offer your support to Rep.Shuler (D-NC)  on his gov website. Phone: 828-252-1651 and Senator Sessions (R-AL) (256) 533-097</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Los Angeles  has deteriorated since the 60&#39;s, it&#39;s hard  for a person who original lived here even recognizes it.  As I have to stay here with relatives for a while, my son needed to locate a school.  My eyes opened wide to find the educational system is in a terrible mess.  I even looked up to see if the American flag was really flying over the school. Sad but true the demographics showed that the majority of the children came from South of the border and within in it&#39;s midst hardly any of 4th graders spoke recognizable English. Even the office staff were not conversing  in English to my dismay.  I learned the majority of kids received free breakfast and lunch, because the impoverished parents couldn&#39;t afford to feed them.</p>
<p> It&#39;s hard to blame the children, but my son is getting a second class education in this overcrowded chaos called a school.  It shows our borders are not secure, that our country has been overwhelmed by the negligence of our corrupt politicians catering to corporate greed.  Coming back to Southern California has turned me into an advocate, for the pro-sovereignty, anti-illegal alien organizations.  Los Angeles has turned into a sewer of criminal aliens running rampant with little or no prosecution, owing to a Sanctuary city policy initiated in San Francisco by Sen. Dianne Feinstein.  Filthy streets scattered with fast food wrappers, clogging drains, illegal alien gang infestation is  not the place not to bring up children.  City councilor Andronovich stated that $ 11. billion can be attributed to every illegal alien, who breaks into America, get a free lunch on the taxpayers in Los Angeles county.  It&#39;s run by a a corrupt mayor, who is directed by an even worse bunch of crooked legislators in Sacramento. This ominous pestilence of corruption, has been spreading across the country for many decades..</p>
<p>LA has become a breeding ground for a society, revolving slowly into a banana republic.  The true Angeleno&#39;s are hardly aware that their taxes are being drained by illegal aliens and their extended families, swarming here to take advantage of Americans.  Legal Los Angeles inhabitants needs to demand a Permanent E-Verify  from their government.   The system will uncover the illegal workers, opening job opportunities for US workers.  Over a period of time rejected by business and not able to find work, the exodus by ATTRITION will begin. American wages must go up and perhaps the elitists, will see through their avarice that American industry is better than importing cheap labor or exporting jobs overseas. Citizens and legal residents must do their part, because they have the ultimate power to&#8211;CHANGE THE FUTURE&#8211;because otherwise we will sink in a quagmire of multiculturalism, balkanization that has  caused massive unrest  and demonstrations in Europe. If we allow another AMNESTY our country will turn into a seething cauldron of frustration and anger in a growing OVERPOPULATED NATION. When billions of your tax dollars are spent to pacify open border entities, its up to the American public to fight back. Demand E-Verify from your cringing Senators <a href="http://www.senate.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.senate.gov</a>  and Congressman at (202) 224-3121 who see you as a&#8211;CASHCOW&#8211; for illegal foreign labor and corrupt foreign governments. IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE NOT BROKEN, JUST NOT ENFORCED! So enforce the 1986 Simpson/Mazzoli bill, the Immigration Reform &#038; Control Act as enacted. Offer your support to Rep.Shuler (D-NC)  on his gov website. Phone: 828-252-1651 and Senator Sessions (R-AL) (256) 533-097</p>
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