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	<title>Comments on: Social conservative group: &#8216;Due to the Supreme Court opinion&#8230; People will die&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: blueneoncat</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/14584/social-conservative-group-due-to-the-supreme-court-opinion-people-will-die/comment-page-1#comment-19666</link>
		<dc:creator>blueneoncat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish these ignorant people would get formal educations.  It is there view point that promotes the shame there own families feel when there love ones admit to them who they really are.  The whole notion of recruitment and &quot;cult&quot; is disgusting.  I wish they could talk to the families of the two 11 year olds who just killed themselves because of the hate this type of  mind set promotes. SHAME ON YOU!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish these ignorant people would get formal educations.  It is there view point that promotes the shame there own families feel when there love ones admit to them who they really are.  The whole notion of recruitment and &#8220;cult&#8221; is disgusting.  I wish they could talk to the families of the two 11 year olds who just killed themselves because of the hate this type of  mind set promotes. SHAME ON YOU!!</p>
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		<title>By: blueneoncat</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/14584/social-conservative-group-due-to-the-supreme-court-opinion-people-will-die/comment-page-1#comment-16706</link>
		<dc:creator>blueneoncat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish these ignorant people would get formal educations.  It is there view point that promotes the shame there own families feel when there love ones admit to them who they really are.  The whole notion of recruitment and &quot;cult&quot; is disgusting.  I wish they could talk to the families of the two 11 year olds who just killed themselves because of the hate this type of  mind set promotes. SHAME ON YOU!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish these ignorant people would get formal educations.  It is there view point that promotes the shame there own families feel when there love ones admit to them who they really are.  The whole notion of recruitment and &#8220;cult&#8221; is disgusting.  I wish they could talk to the families of the two 11 year olds who just killed themselves because of the hate this type of  mind set promotes. SHAME ON YOU!!</p>
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		<title>By: MsCris</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsCris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This family did a great disservice to their son...long before he got sick...long before they started paying his hospital bills...and long before making an example of him. If he had learned that his &quot;life-style&quot; was not unhealthy or shameful, perhaps he would have had the confidence to learn about safe sex. Do you know of any families who get online to discuss their straight sons and daughters getting HIV? It happens! Do they cite how it pains their families? Do those families of heterosexual HIV victims end the video with:&lt;br&gt;&quot;We oppose heterosexual &#039;marriage&#039; in the hopes we might help another family avoid the pain that we have endured.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;AIDS is not a &quot;gay disease,&quot; it affects everyone who engages in sex.&lt;br&gt;This video has absolutely nothing to do with gay marriage. If their son had been given confidence regarding his sexuality, then marriage may have actually helped him stay HAPPY and HEALTHY. He WOULD NOT be DEAD!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, why does everyone keep citing HIV+ gay men as the primary candidates for gay marriage? Lesbians carry a lower risk for disease than heterosexuals and gay men. Lesbians have long-term monogamous relationships (as do many gay men). Why do these homophobic jerks keep justifying their cause with a handful of unfortunate examples, people who were victims of their own family&#039;s intolerance and their own personal limitations?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry for the incoherent post...but this is truly upsetting to me. When will the &quot;loving church-goers&quot; stop their bullsh*t and lies? When will they realize they are hurting God&#039;s Plan by preventing their loved ones from being who they were made to be? It is intolerance, righteousness and making God in your own flawed image that creates violence and death...not the commitment of two people who love each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This family did a great disservice to their son&#8230;long before he got sick&#8230;long before they started paying his hospital bills&#8230;and long before making an example of him. If he had learned that his &#8220;life-style&#8221; was not unhealthy or shameful, perhaps he would have had the confidence to learn about safe sex. Do you know of any families who get online to discuss their straight sons and daughters getting HIV? It happens! Do they cite how it pains their families? Do those families of heterosexual HIV victims end the video with:<br />&#8220;We oppose heterosexual &#39;marriage&#39; in the hopes we might help another family avoid the pain that we have endured.&#8221;</p>
<p>AIDS is not a &#8220;gay disease,&#8221; it affects everyone who engages in sex.<br />This video has absolutely nothing to do with gay marriage. If their son had been given confidence regarding his sexuality, then marriage may have actually helped him stay HAPPY and HEALTHY. He WOULD NOT be DEAD!</p>
<p>And, why does everyone keep citing HIV+ gay men as the primary candidates for gay marriage? Lesbians carry a lower risk for disease than heterosexuals and gay men. Lesbians have long-term monogamous relationships (as do many gay men). Why do these homophobic jerks keep justifying their cause with a handful of unfortunate examples, people who were victims of their own family&#39;s intolerance and their own personal limitations?</p>
<p>Sorry for the incoherent post&#8230;but this is truly upsetting to me. When will the &#8220;loving church-goers&#8221; stop their bullsh*t and lies? When will they realize they are hurting God&#39;s Plan by preventing their loved ones from being who they were made to be? It is intolerance, righteousness and making God in your own flawed image that creates violence and death&#8230;not the commitment of two people who love each other.</p>
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		<title>By: DemGoddess</title>
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		<dc:creator>DemGoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I got to say is that 49% of people with HIV/AIDS are heterosexuals that engage is risky sexual behavior or use IV drugs and even though African-Americans only make up about 13% of the pop. in the US they account for 48% of the HIV/AIDS cases. Maybe we should just ban marriage for those hetero&#039;s that use IV drugs and African-Americans and those hetero&#039;s that cheat and are in poly-amorous relationships or that are plain ol&#039; hyper-sexual. Come on now! WTF!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I got to say is that 49% of people with HIV/AIDS are heterosexuals that engage is risky sexual behavior or use IV drugs and even though African-Americans only make up about 13% of the pop. in the US they account for 48% of the HIV/AIDS cases. Maybe we should just ban marriage for those hetero&#39;s that use IV drugs and African-Americans and those hetero&#39;s that cheat and are in poly-amorous relationships or that are plain ol&#39; hyper-sexual. Come on now! WTF!!</p>
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		<title>By: RegularJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>RegularJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t think of any direct tie between homosexuality and death....EXCEPT in cases like Matthew Shepard&#039;s, where folks who &quot;think&quot; (and I use that term *very* loosely) like Chuck express their hatred to often horrific ends. Seems to me it&#039;s folks like Squirrelly Hurley who cause death and destruction in families, communities, states, nations. &lt;br&gt;These twisted little cults show us these terrorist breeding grounds need to be closely monitored, whether they be perversions of Islam such as Al-Qaeda or perversions of Christianity such as IFPC and other Christian Identity movement groups. Chuck&#039;s in &quot;good&quot; company with folks like Eric Rudolph, Osama bin Laden, Richard Butler, Fred Phelps. Religious, all. Haters, all. Danger to our society.....all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#39;t think of any direct tie between homosexuality and death&#8230;.EXCEPT in cases like Matthew Shepard&#39;s, where folks who &#8220;think&#8221; (and I use that term *very* loosely) like Chuck express their hatred to often horrific ends. Seems to me it&#39;s folks like Squirrelly Hurley who cause death and destruction in families, communities, states, nations. <br />These twisted little cults show us these terrorist breeding grounds need to be closely monitored, whether they be perversions of Islam such as Al-Qaeda or perversions of Christianity such as IFPC and other Christian Identity movement groups. Chuck&#39;s in &#8220;good&#8221; company with folks like Eric Rudolph, Osama bin Laden, Richard Butler, Fred Phelps. Religious, all. Haters, all. Danger to our society&#8230;..all.</p>
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		<title>By: slincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>slincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing your story.  People need to realize that HIV is contracted by people who are promiscuous or just plan unlucky - any correlation to sexual orientation is by chance only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing your story.  People need to realize that HIV is contracted by people who are promiscuous or just plan unlucky &#8211; any correlation to sexual orientation is by chance only.</p>
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		<title>By: RegularJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>RegularJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it too much to hope for Chuck to get swine flu and die? Seriously, the guy I shared a tent and bunker with during Desert Storm died of AIDS. He was my best friend. He, like me, was straight. AIDS ain&#039;t &quot;the gay&quot; disease. Chuck, spreading lies and hate and fear is pretty fucked up. Way to be pro-family, pro-faith, pro-Iowa. Way to violate the 9th Commandment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it too much to hope for Chuck to get swine flu and die? Seriously, the guy I shared a tent and bunker with during Desert Storm died of AIDS. He was my best friend. He, like me, was straight. AIDS ain&#39;t &#8220;the gay&#8221; disease. Chuck, spreading lies and hate and fear is pretty fucked up. Way to be pro-family, pro-faith, pro-Iowa. Way to violate the 9th Commandment.</p>
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		<title>By: turkeystone</title>
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		<dc:creator>turkeystone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  When learning of the wonderful, unanimous decision of the Iowa Supreme Court, the FIRST THING I thought about was the many Gay/Lesbain teenagers in Iowa who are now less-likely to commit suicide.  I know &quot;slincoln&quot; also mentioned this, but it&#039;s a fact of life - and death.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t ya just love people who try to spread their toxins by playing on people&#039;s fears?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  When learning of the wonderful, unanimous decision of the Iowa Supreme Court, the FIRST THING I thought about was the many Gay/Lesbain teenagers in Iowa who are now less-likely to commit suicide.  I know &#8220;slincoln&#8221; also mentioned this, but it&#39;s a fact of life &#8211; and death.</p>
<p>Don&#39;t ya just love people who try to spread their toxins by playing on people&#39;s fears?</p>
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		<title>By: slincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>slincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Educating oneself when they have deep-seated bigotry is hard.  It&#039;s easier to play victim and blame other people for your own life problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Educating oneself when they have deep-seated bigotry is hard.  It&#39;s easier to play victim and blame other people for your own life problems.</p>
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		<title>By: slincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>slincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encourage everyone to spread the disgusting lies of the IFPC to everyone they know.  We cant allow complacency - they are encourage pain, suffering, and injury to citizens of our state.  This goes beyond reason.  We can no longer just disagree with their message but respect their motives, that gives them too much undeserved credit and respect.  As Martin Luther King, Jr reminded us, the worst thing we can do is be the complacent good people.  The IFPC is an enemy to liberty and Iowa.  We must treat them as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage everyone to spread the disgusting lies of the IFPC to everyone they know.  We cant allow complacency &#8211; they are encourage pain, suffering, and injury to citizens of our state.  This goes beyond reason.  We can no longer just disagree with their message but respect their motives, that gives them too much undeserved credit and respect.  As Martin Luther King, Jr reminded us, the worst thing we can do is be the complacent good people.  The IFPC is an enemy to liberty and Iowa.  We must treat them as such.</p>
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