Comments on: NY-based advocacy group uses Iowa ag fire as soapbox

By: john649

john649 — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:06:20 +0000

it is a shame that you are so arrogant about a subject that is deserves better. It is this arrogance that I see again and again amongst farmers who continue to defend a profession that abuses animals on a daily basis and sees nothing wrong with it. This attitude with be the end of farming as you know it.

By: bluewingpig

bluewingpig — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:18:18 +0000

Well now I know that my nearly half century of being involved in the pork industry is of little consequence. I defer to your vast knowledge gleaned from your study on the internet.

By: john649

john649 — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:06:20 +0000

By: bluewingpig

bluewingpig — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:18:18 +0000

Well now I know that my nearly half century of being involved in the pork industry is of little consequence. I defer to your vast knowledge gleaned from your study on the internet.

By: john649

john649 — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:37:28 +0000

as long as farmers continue to say we are all doing a great job you will lose your livelihood. The evidence is spread across the internet that the sate of affairs of factory farms will be the death of farmers everywhere. Hiding from it will hurt you not help you. When will you farmers stand up and take responsibility for this industry in stead of pointing fingers saying its the other guy so leave us alone??

By: bluewingpig

bluewingpig — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:26:46 +0000

You are correct these animals may have been alive if they were outside, provided they didn't die first from a brutal winter. Housing hogs inside protects them from weather extremes. Most farmers I know take very good care of their animals and they do it because it is the right thing to do.

By: john649

john649 — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:46:58 +0000

you might be interested in how “well' your buddies are doing by cleaning up their act……..

http://iowaindependent.com/10046/iowa-meatpacke...

By: john649

john649 — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:35:04 +0000

this has nothing to do with how I feel. The facts are there, the videos are damming and the animal rights groups will be victorious due to a lack of concern from farmers across the globe……..

By: bruth

bruth — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:24:21 +0000

Sorry you feel that way but I have been doing this for my whole life and
you are wrong. The majority of the people that I have dealt with are
doing the right thing!

By: john649

john649 — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:12:25 +0000

You are probably thinking you are doing the right thing but the majority of your profession is taking the money and running from responsible farming. It is hard to see when you are so closely tied to your practice. Again it is a very sad FACT that this is NOT a few bad apples but business as usual.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4016264...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FH8AQzk4HM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_DkHpvYn24&feat...

Exactly how many videos do you need to see to convince you? 200? 3000? one Million?

The time for farmers to monitor themselves is long over, due to this kind of negligence animal rights groups are not only necessary but inevitable. This practice WILL end……….